Poison cues

[skor]

So.... what's the deal with those cues and what's Predator have to do with them?
I've seen on the Poison cues web page (http://www.poisonbilliards.com) that the contact address is the same as the Predator address in Jacksonville, Florida....

Come on Darrin, out with the juicy details......

[McChen]

it's just a different brand from the same company

i like some of the cues though, some innovative modern designs

[bhupinder]

Do they just look good from outside? How is there performance?Though I am not planning to buy one, still would like to know.:icon_cool:

[poohkiller]

I am interested too, come on Darrin! :-)

[jsggems]

I have my eye on 3 of them. They look really cool, I hope someone has them at the Expo in VF in March. The Ghost Joint looks interesting. I like the AR6, AX4 and the CY2. I want to try one. :Copy of waving:

[McChen]

i'm guessing for the price, the quality will be something like a lucasi? who actually makes a pretty good cue for the price imho. seems weird though that they came out with 2 new joint types. they look like just variations on the uni-loc qr joint. unless they are really different in some way, i would have preferred them to use an existing joint. last thing we need is more joint types...

i saw that seyberts just posted the predator shafts for the poison cues...if i get a poison cue, i'm definitely gonna go with a predator shaft for it

[skor]

i saw that seyberts just posted the predator shafts for the poison cues...if i get a poison cue, i'm definitely gonna go with a predator shaft for it

and this is something I don't get....
Predator is all about performance shafts that lower deflection, they never built a cue (besides the P2), so why "produce" an inferior product?

[McChen]

i think this is why they created a separate brand so as not to affect the predator name. plus this gives them the chance to hit the lower end of the market. i'm pretty sure they are not building them themselves, they are probably imports.

speaking of deflection, i wonder how the poison shafts will perform. they say they are double density, so the core might be a very light wood that would reduce the end mass and thus deflection. not as much as a predator shaft, but probably still better than a standard shaft.

[Darrin]

Here’s the scoop, guys. As you have already noticed, the Predator Group is behind the new Poison brand. It is more of a mid-range priced pool cue for a different profile of players than Predator. It’s got some cool new designs that are really different than what’s out there now. And as far as performance goes, it has been tuned to be the best in its price point. The shaft is a one-piece shaft, but it has some Predator magic in the front. These shafts will out perform every other cue in that price range hands down.
The cues have some amazing new grips that will be a big advantage for beginners and more experienced players a like. I will post some more on the cues tomorrow.

Poison will have a booth with a pool table at the Super Billiards Expo in Valley Forge (March 13-16).

[poohkiller]

Yes, all that sounds like a good sale-policy. The new brand won't take away any of the respect and desire for Predator equipments but the Predator name will give the new brand some extra regard.

I am curious how these will perform but I don't assume that I'll ever own one - however, for some reason, I suppose that this new brand will be successful.

[jsggems]

I'm glad they're going to be at the Expo, I want to try one, just cause it's something new. Who knows, I might be going back to Brazil with one or two, if I like them.

[jkregan]

I find it amusing that the snake on the website appears to be a Python which is non-venomous.

On the other hand, the cues look very interesting. The designs are innovative and unique. I would like to play with one just for the experience. Perhaps I will win the trip to Las Vegas and play with my own Poison cue.

[Darrin]

The cues are very cool looking guys, I like the VX playing cue myself! They cues also have some great new joints that have a very unique hit to them. That being said, we are also going to be offering the best shaft on the market today as an upgrade. I think that this is going to become my new cue to go the bars and play with at night so I don't have to carry around my expensive Predator. Yep, a blue VX with a Predator shaft.

Can you smell that? What, smoke? No...............Money!

[cebuboy]

Poison cues are now available here in the Philippines! :D

Need to go to the showroom this weekend. :)

Anybody coming with me? :D

[Phantom]

Flashy cues that are actually built with performance in mind.... Look out Cuetec!

[poohkiller]

Cuetec? What cuetec? >:-P :-)

[PoolDad]

Flashy cues that are actually built with performance in mind.... Look out Cuetec!

Look out Cuetec?? I must be missing something.....
I'm gonna give these poison cues a try....just for s.... and giggles.

[sharknu]

I just ordered the Anthrax-2. It is suppose to ship out this week. I will let you know how it shoots. Check back soon for a review!!!!
Sharknu

[sharknu]

My cue just shipped out yesterday!! I am suppose to recieve it on Tuesday 12/4.

Sharknu

[crookedcue]

any word on those cues yet?

[sharknu]

Yeah...I really like the hit of it!!!! Good cue in my opinion!
sharknu

[bhupinder]

Hi,
Everyone was expecting the review of the cue.

We all know its good cause its made by predator.

want more:icon_confused:
come on shark:D

[sharknu]

Well lets put it this way. I have owned about 5 predator cues anything from the older 96-314-5...an older sneaky....a 4k2....a couple of newer SP's. I like the hit of this poison AX-2 better then all of them. I only have one Predator cue left...which is the green sneaky pete. I have only shot with it a couple of times so I can't give a long use review but I can say that I can get alot of crap on the cue ball. Let me play with it more and I will let you know more.
Sharknu

[Phantom]

PoolDad said "Look out Cuetec?? I must be missing something....."

What I meant PoolDad, was that Poison cues will be competing for the same market as cuetec because they are in roughly the same price range and are both rather showy. Since Poison cues are designed to play well, unlike cuetec, its likely poison will take a big chunk out of cuetec's sales.

If you play with a cuetec, sorry its true - they suck. Lots of deflection, very little feedback, and if you scratch it you cant repair it.

[remoliew]

i strongly agree with you. i used to use cuetec a while ago, felt good at the beginning, then when it came to cleaning it, it kinda pissed me off. the cuetec cleaner solution doesnt keep it clean for long. it gets nasty after 2 visits to the poolhall. i went on using it for another 3 months, gave up and got myself a lucasi cue and slapped a 314² on it. now my cuetec's just sitting in the corner of my room doin nothing....wont sell....no one wants it

[PoolDad]

PoolDad said "Look out Cuetec?? I must be missing something....."

What I meant PoolDad, was that Poison cues will be competing for the same market as cuetec because they are in roughly the same price range and are both rather showy. Since Poison cues are designed to play well, unlike cuetec, its likely poison will take a big chunk out of cuetec's sales.

If you play with a cuetec, sorry its true - they suck. Lots of deflection, very little feedback, and if you scratch it you cant repair it.

Ok, sorry I missed the reply and what you actually meant. I appreciate the clarification and I think you are right too.
I'm tempted to order one but I think I'll wait......

[McChen]

i stumbled upon a good way to keep cuetecs playable. sand the shafts! take some 220 grip sandpaper and lightly sand in long strokes up and down the entire shaft until all the glossiness is gone. lightly sanding the shaft with a low grit sandpaper gives the shaft some texture. it is when it is polished and smooth as glass that makes the shaft feel sticky. the shaft will be now slide easily in the bridge hand and you don't have to do it very often. i find that cuetec shaft do feel and sound a little weird due to the fiberglass, but if you have a good tip on it, it plays just fine.

[pap]

Sorry isn't this thread about poison cues?

Anyone with a vx 2.9 break jump?

[leeroy300]

I am looking at either the CY-2 or the AX-4 .
Could someone please tell me what joint the bullet or ghost is the better of the 2 ? Thanx :?

[fultimebum]

The Poison Cue's came in at the Pro Shop that I do business with and I walked in as they were unpacking them. Of course they had them laying on the Pool Table so I couldn't wait for them to finish so I could give them a try. I must say Predator is on to something. For the price I haven't shot with a cue like the Black and White Strychnine ST3 Cue. I racked a 9 Ball rack in the Pro Shop and the first time I shot with it I Broke and Ran the rack out. The shaft is a little fat for me since I shoot mainly with the Predator Z2 Shaft. If I were to purchase one I wouldn't change a thing. They also come packed in a box that serves as a case. It has 2 sections for the butt and the shaft like a square case. I thought that was pretty neat. I was really impressed. I told a friend of mines who only shoots with Custom Cues. He shoots with a Capone right now and purchased 2 more from Cue Makers at Valley Forge and has I don't know how many at home. He went to the Pro shop and when he said he tried out the Poison Cues that were there I thought for sure he was going to pick them apart. He fooled me. He actually liked them also. That is saying a lot because he is very critical of what he expects from a Pool Cue. Good Job POISON. LOVE EM'.:)

[Sztucjan]

I am going to buy a Arsenic AR3. :)
Long billiard balls the most interest me and rotations ?

[fultimebum]

A little bit of information. The Pro Shop that I said got in some Poison Cue's, he can't get them in fast enough. They are selling like hotcakes. He had one left on the rack when I went there a few days ago. Very good sellers. I know a few people that purchased them and they love them.:)

[evadeng]

3rd China (Guangzhou) International Billiards Exhibition 2009(GBE2009)
Venue: China Import and Export Fair Pazhou Complex
（No.380 Mid of Yuejiang Road, Guangzhou, Guangdong, China）
Date: Mar. 10 to 12,2009.

As the main topic of China Guangzhou International Leisure Expo, GBE is held from 2007. There were only 120 booths, including billiards products and home amusement products. In 2008, with the exhibition quickly increased, the booth number is up to more than 300, altogether with home amusement products. GBE 2008 attracted many domestic and international brands to display their products in the show, such as XingPai, Shender, RILEY WIRAKA, KingBrowns, BiaoLi and so on. So that GBE gets its good reputation as the largest billiards exhibition in Asia. As exhibitors got very good effort in GBE, most of the exhibitors show their satisfactory to the exhibition and ask us to reserve booth beforehand for them.
http://www.gbechina.com (http://www.gbechina.com/)
Eva Deng:dywaiwen@yahoo.com.cn

[dharmabum]

Get over the production and all the eye candy marketing, and you will find a great playing cue for the money. For the price point these are fantastic. Are they a Predator? not really, but they deflect way less than other standard shafts. The feel is solid and stiff, the tip is quite lively, and the feedback is impressive. And to all who swear against production cues, remember that these high tech shafts, Preds, Univrsls, Tiger, are all mass produced too. No cue is better than another if the player has the skills. If you can't pick up a Dufferin two piece and outright play b/c of the shaft, etc, then I say work on your fundamentals.

[Rocky]

They are going to be the best bang for your buck, technology wise. If you are looking for a low end cue, instead of looking at what you can get design wise I would suggest looking at what you can get performance wise. I think that you will be much more impressed with your purchase.

[skor]

They are going to be the best bang for your buck, technology wise. If you are looking for a low end cue, instead of looking at what you can get design wise I would suggest looking at what you can get performance wise. I think that you will be much more impressed with your purchase.

But why do they have to be so ugly.... :eek: