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10-16-2002, 04:20 AM
does anybody here had any problems with their Lucasi shaft or butt warping? i'd appreciate your inputs. thanks

01-20-2003, 10:47 PM
As a matter of fact, just tonight I noticed that my Lucasi sneaky pete(my favorite cue) is beginning to warp :cry: . I can tell you precisely why, too. I left the cue in the car during my work day today. That wasn't the brightest thing to do considering it's January, and I live in Wisconsin :? . Make no mistake, this was entirely my fault. If you treat a Lucasi shaft the right way, and keep it in the right conditions (i.e.reasonable temps, dry, clean, cased) it should never warp. The quality is too good.
As for myself, this may be a blessing in disguise. I've been having this reoccuring dream about playing with a Predator. I think it's time. :wink: 8)

dirt550
11-07-2003, 03:29 PM
iI just sold my Predator. It was a good cue. But I just love the feel of the Lucasi.

CP
02-03-2005, 04:49 PM
Just purchased a Lucasi off of Ebay and I noticed a very slight "wobble" of the shaft when it's rolled on a table. Tried it with and without the butt and it's the same way..

The seller offered a full refund and said he's never heard of a Lucasi shaft having this problem.

Is a slight wobble acceptable? Am I getting all worked up over nothing?

Any/All advise greatly appreciated. Thanks.

audiopro
02-03-2005, 04:54 PM
Check this post..
http://www.seyberts.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1957

dags_lax
02-03-2005, 05:08 PM
I left the cue in the car during my work day today. That wasn't the brightest thing to do considering it's January, and I live in Wisconsin

That is not the brightest thing to do, theoretically at least. But think about this way, Cues are shipped all over the world in all kinds of temperature extremes. So your cue should be able to handle the occasional extreme.

I have a friend who has had his McDermott for over 25 years (lived in Wisconsin and Vegas the whole time) and the only time his cue isn't in his car is when he takes it out shoot. The cue is still straight.

spartan
02-03-2005, 05:10 PM
las vegas isnt very humid so that may have something to do with it. the air is very dry. but thats still pretty amazing.

DZ314
02-03-2005, 05:18 PM
I left the cue in the car during my work day today. That wasn't the brightest thing to do considering it's January, and I live in Wisconsin

That is not the brightest thing to do, theoretically at least. But think about this way, Cues are shipped all over the world in all kinds of temperature extremes. So your cue should be able to handle the occasional extreme.

I have a friend who has had his McDermott for over 25 years (lived in Wisconsin and Vegas the whole time) and the only time his cue isn't in his car is when he takes it out shoot. The cue is still straight.

Does he have an Instroke case? :)

spartan
02-03-2005, 05:29 PM
imo instroke are the best cases. they are lightweight, hold alot of accesories, jump cue holder, etc and some at a good price. look at the geo series.

dags_lax
02-03-2005, 05:48 PM
He has an inexpensive no name hard case. And His Schmelke cue he uses for breaking is still straight as well although I think he has only had that about twelve years.

audiopro
02-03-2005, 06:03 PM
It's not generally extreme conditions that cause a problem, rather an extreme change in conditions. Where if you leave your cue out in the freezing cold, then immediately bring it in the house and throw her next to a nice romantic fire to warm it up... lol

In all seriousness though, they can handle some abuse, although try not to abuse it if you do not have to.

Take for example:
Put an egg in the freezer, get it real nice and cold.. Now boil some water, once boiling, take the egg right from the freezer, and into the boiling water.. Now watch the egg break open.. Works in reverse too, from boiling water to inside the freezer, the egg will crack..

ThePoolHustler
02-03-2005, 06:06 PM
As a matter of fact, just tonight I noticed that my Lucasi sneaky pete(my favorite cue) is beginning to warp :cry: . I can tell you precisely why, too. I left the cue in the car during my work day today. That wasn't the brightest thing to do considering it's January, and I live in Wisconsin :? . Make no mistake, this was entirely my fault. If you treat a Lucasi shaft the right way, and keep it in the right conditions (i.e.reasonable temps, dry, clean, cased) it should never warp. The quality is too good.
As for myself, this may be a blessing in disguise. I've been having this reoccuring dream about playing with a Predator. I think it's time. :wink: 8)

I have a Lucasi with a 314. It's a good setup. Neither of my original Lucasi shafts ever warped. I don't recommend leaving your cue in the car though. Extreme temperature changes can warp any shaft. I definitely agree with you. If you treat the shaft right, it should never warp. Mistreatment of a shaft is most likely the major cause of shaft warpage. I also agree that the quality of a Lucasi shaft is good.

ThePoolHustler
02-03-2005, 06:12 PM
As a matter of fact, just tonight I noticed that my Lucasi sneaky pete(my favorite cue) is beginning to warp :cry: . I can tell you precisely why, too. I left the cue in the car during my work day today. That wasn't the brightest thing to do considering it's January, and I live in Wisconsin :? . Make no mistake, this was entirely my fault. If you treat a Lucasi shaft the right way, and keep it in the right conditions (i.e.reasonable temps, dry, clean, cased) it should never warp. The quality is too good.
As for myself, this may be a blessing in disguise. I've been having this reoccuring dream about playing with a Predator. I think it's time. :wink: 8)

Although the Predator 314 is a good shaft, I would recommend taking a look at a shaft from one of the following cue makers. Both have done extensive tests which have shown that their shafts are less deflective than a Predator 314 or Z shaft. Here are the links:

http://www.annieosproshop.com/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?usr=51F6880798&rnd=7797241&rrc=N&affl=&cip=65.221.37.28&act=&aff=&pg=aontshafts

http://www.meuccicues.com/blackdot-chart.htm

The way these shafts are spliced is much different than the radial splice of the Predator shafts. These are 35 Layer Flat Laminated Shafts.

Just a suggestion. If you feel more comfortable purchasing a Predator 314, then go for it. I just wanted to provide you with some other data to ponder over.

02-03-2005, 08:05 PM
Check this post..
http://www.seyberts.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1957


Thanks for the link. Takes a load off my mind for sure. :D

audiopro
02-03-2005, 09:34 PM
Glad to help! :wink:

thumpin347
02-04-2005, 01:04 AM
As a matter of fact, just tonight I noticed that my Lucasi sneaky pete(my favorite cue) is beginning to warp :cry: . I can tell you precisely why, too. I left the cue in the car during my work day today. That wasn't the brightest thing to do considering it's January, and I live in Wisconsin :? . Make no mistake, this was entirely my fault. If you treat a Lucasi shaft the right way, and keep it in the right conditions (i.e.reasonable temps, dry, clean, cased) it should never warp. The quality is too good.
As for myself, this may be a blessing in disguise. I've been having this reoccuring dream about playing with a Predator. I think it's time. :wink: 8)

Although the Predator 314 is a good shaft, I would recommend taking a look at a shaft from one of the following cue makers. Both have done extensive tests which have shown that their shafts are less deflective than a Predator 314 or Z shaft. Here are the links:

http://www.annieosproshop.com/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?usr=51F6880798&rnd=7797241&rrc=N&affl=&cip=65.221.37.28&act=&aff=&pg=aontshafts

http://www.meuccicues.com/blackdot-chart.htm

The way these shafts are spliced is much different than the radial splice of the Predator shafts. These are 35 Layer Flat Laminated Shafts.

Just a suggestion. If you feel more comfortable purchasing a Predator 314, then go for it. I just wanted to provide you with some other data to ponder over.

thats funny because i've seen tests where the red dot shaft has less deflection than the black dot shaft. another thing...you have to keep the dot side in the 12 o clock position, so thats another thing to worry about. i'll stick to a shaft the pros use

ThePoolHustler
02-04-2005, 12:21 PM
As a matter of fact, just tonight I noticed that my Lucasi sneaky pete(my favorite cue) is beginning to warp :cry: . I can tell you precisely why, too. I left the cue in the car during my work day today. That wasn't the brightest thing to do considering it's January, and I live in Wisconsin :? . Make no mistake, this was entirely my fault. If you treat a Lucasi shaft the right way, and keep it in the right conditions (i.e.reasonable temps, dry, clean, cased) it should never warp. The quality is too good.
As for myself, this may be a blessing in disguise. I've been having this reoccuring dream about playing with a Predator. I think it's time. :wink: 8)

Although the Predator 314 is a good shaft, I would recommend taking a look at a shaft from one of the following cue makers. Both have done extensive tests which have shown that their shafts are less deflective than a Predator 314 or Z shaft. Here are the links:

http://www.annieosproshop.com/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?usr=51F6880798&rnd=7797241&rrc=N&affl=&cip=65.221.37.28&act=&aff=&pg=aontshafts

http://www.meuccicues.com/blackdot-chart.htm

The way these shafts are spliced is much different than the radial splice of the Predator shafts. These are 35 Layer Flat Laminated Shafts.

Just a suggestion. If you feel more comfortable purchasing a Predator 314, then go for it. I just wanted to provide you with some other data to ponder over.

thats funny because i've seen tests where the red dot shaft has less deflection than the black dot shaft. another thing...you have to keep the dot side in the 12 o clock position, so thats another thing to worry about. i'll stick to a shaft the pros use

The pros use all of these shafts. Annie Mayes is a former professional player who endorsed Predator at one time. I have spoken to her via Email. I suggested giving her my predator shaft but she says she has no use for them now because her E-shaft is better. However, she says that the Predator shafts are still in the top 10% of less deflective cues. They just aren't as good as hers.

zimzoom
02-17-2005, 07:13 PM
I just noticed on my cue that the wrap is loose and you can turn it all the way around. and i have never left my cue in extreme weather conditions of any kind.