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JAMMER
03-01-2007, 11:33 AM
i am qualified for the regional tounament. i am in a bracket of 44 players with 3 to qualify for las vegas. it is a modified single elimination format. i went to the apa website but cant make any sense of it. do any of you know how that format works. being that there is 3 winners i would think that the 44 get split into 3 seperate brackets. i am just wondering how many matched i will have to win in order to go to vegas. it says on the paperwork i recieved that i am guaranteed to play at least twice. i guess if i lose the first match i still go on, but if i lose after that im out?

tsuguy
03-01-2007, 12:14 PM
It's double elimination... so you would have to win 7 matches to win the tournament (assuming that you don't get a "bye" in the first round and if you don't go to the losers bracket ) If you do lose your first match you will then have to win 11 consecutive matches to win the tournament... your last two matches would be against the winner of the winners bracket as you would have to beat him twice to eliminate him.

So all in all depending on how many you win in the beginning will substantially increase your chances to getting to the finals. The number of matches needed to win will vary with how soon you do or don't lose.

It could be anywhere between 6 ( if you get a "bye" ) and 11 if you lose in the first round... Good luck!

Oh also..
1st is the tournament winner
2nd is the finals loser
3rd is the losers bracket finals loser
( all one win apart )

JAMMER
03-01-2007, 12:51 PM
thanks tsuguy. so all the players stay in the same bracket and the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place finishers go to vegas. sure sounds like a lot of matches for me to have to stay on my game, im gonna have to really pace myself with the alcohol. i was really hoping for a 4 or 5 match deal. the tounament is saturday and sunday and they are also doing 9 ball. from what i remember i think they have about 10-12 tables. im hoping all of 8 ball is done saturday and 9 ball sunday. ill keep you posted on the results. its in nj and from what i hear the guys from hoboken are great shots. i have been practicing my a** off all week for them.

tsuguy
03-01-2007, 01:22 PM
Yep, everyone starts out a "winner" lol :lol: then once a player loses a match they are then seperated into another bracket with others than are on the brink if elimination... but from there it's more and more work to get to the top 3! Stay on your game, practice your concentration this week, and sip the beer when you're there... Hopefully I'll see you in Vegas :) ( I qualified two weeks ago ! )

JAMMER
03-01-2007, 01:41 PM
NICE! congratulations.
i want this one really bad. i have been slowing my game down a little and really focusing on the fundamentals a little more. hopefully i make it to the promised land.

jkregan
03-01-2007, 03:42 PM
APA Tournaments are generally modified double elimination which means you are guaranteed the opportunity to play twice but not necessarily to lose twice.

What essentially happens is that the losers from the first two rounds move to a consolation bracket but the consolation bracket does not resolve to a traditional winner of the losers bracket. Instead, there are winners who are then rolled into the winners bracket later in the tournament.

Go to: http://www.amateurpool.net/aparules.htm and the bracket charts are at the bottom portion of the page.

nathar
03-01-2007, 11:28 PM
One more thing to keep in mind. APA has a 3 tiered handicaping system. eg In 8 ball you have the 1st tier which is SL 2-3, tier 2 SL 4-5, and tier 3 SL 6-7. 9 ball is tier 1 SL 1-3, tier 2 SL 4-6, and tier 3 SL 7-9. The regional event I participated is there was only one player to advance from each tier. In other words, out of over 100 people participating in 8 ball and 9 ball, only 6 contestants advanced to Vegas.

tsuguy
03-02-2007, 12:30 AM
True, I assumed with only 44 players they were all the same tier, but that isn't necessarily the case!

JAMMER
03-02-2007, 10:01 AM
you guys are correct. there is more people qualified but i only mentiopned the 44 sl4's and 5's. thats the tier im in and there are 3 to move on out of that tier.

Dennis111
03-02-2007, 03:08 PM
I went to Las Vegas a couple of years ago to play in the nationals. It was alot of fun. There is alot of sandbagging 6,7 and 8 skill levels. I did okay,,but lost near the end by a sl7,,who ran 4 racks. But a good time is all that matters.

JAMMER
03-05-2007, 09:45 AM
hey tsuguy, ILL SEE YOU IN VEGAS!
i got there saturday at 8am. my first match was to start at 12:30. he was a no show. my next match came up at 6 pm. so after sitting around all day and eating next to nothing and holding back from drinking i struggled to win the match on a hill/hill situation. i was a little dizzy the first few games but started to drink when it started so i played a little better each game.
sunday started out at 12 noon with a match against a player on the loser board. i beat him 4-2 with an impossible 8 ball table legnth kick shot around all of his balls. ill never make it again in my life. i shot it off the rail straight into the far rail with left english to get by his balls and back to the left corner to tap the 8 about a 1' into the pocket.
the next match i played a guy in the winner board on an 8' table. i kinda of think i may of had a slight atvantage as i practice on an 8. it went to a hill/hill as i gave 2 games shooting a table legnth shot with some left draw to bring the cue back for the 8 that was sitting on the headrail. same shot both games with the same result.....a hung ball and an easy 8 ball shot for the opponent. i decided it was time to start shooting a little slowler and it payed off in a gut wrenching final game.
nect was the final on the same table. i felt the most comfortable playing this one as i had gained my confidence. i shot a mostly defensive game but tried for one i should of safed in the first game and ended up with an 8 that was blocked. tried to safe it then but didnt shoot it right. one down. i won the next 3 and snapped the 8 on the hill to go to vegas. what a weekend!

skor
03-05-2007, 11:04 AM
congrats on the great weekend and good luck to you all in Vagas, luckily for you all, I won't be there...... :twisted:

jkregan
03-05-2007, 01:15 PM
Nor me! I am told I am the most dangerous 4 in the APA.

tsuguy
03-05-2007, 01:35 PM
Congrats Jammer! Looked like all your preparation paid off!!!

Sounds like we both had a successfull weekend too!
I won back to back to back 8ball tournaments Fri.Sat. &Sun 8) Non-sanctioned of course

Bad part was I won less and less money in each one as my calcutta fee rose each day!!! What happened to the good ole days when a guy could buy himself for $5 a take home about a $1000 for a night's work?! LOL...

Congrats once again!