View Full Version : Which cuemakers have a 4-axis CNC?
Fenris
12-26-2006, 05:04 PM
Hi. I'm new to these forums, so please bear with me.
I am looking to order a custom cue with a custom ring design. It's the design from a Tiffany ring that my friend wears, which I thought would look great on a cue. I emailed Bob Dzuricky of DZ Cues to ask him if he could make the ring design. He told me that he could not because he only has a 3-axis CNC and the design required a 4-axis CNC. So with this in mind, I was wondering if anyone here, especially those of you who have extensive cue collections, if you know of any cuemakers who have a 4-axis CNC that can make the Tiffany ring design for the trim rings on a cue?
I would post a picture of the ring, but I don't know how to do that. :( (If anyone can help me out with this part, I'd appreciate it.)
I appreciate any help that you folks can give me.
Fenris
Try Bill McDaniel
he can make almost everything abd his cues also play great
Fenris
12-26-2006, 06:44 PM
Thanks for the recommendation, skor.
Does he have a website? I tried googling for it, but came up empty-handed. Does he have an email address? I'd appreciate it if you can provide this info, assuming you have it.
Fenris
audiopro
12-26-2006, 09:09 PM
Found this.. The website seems to only have a place holder page, but maybe the email works.. If not, the phone number...
From: http://www.easypooltutor.com/cuemakers-68.html
McDaniel Custom Cues
Address and Contact Information:
586 Airways Blvd
Jackson, Tennessee 38301
United States
731-424-4455 (Phone Number)
bill@billmcdaniel.com (Email Address)
Cue Maker Information:
Bill McDaniel began to make cues in 1974 eventually partnering with Tim Scruggs. Today, he makes about 300 cues in his shop with full CNC capability.
Cue Maker Website URL:
http://www.billmcdaniel.com/
He did have a web site (http://www.billmcdaniel.com) but it doesn't work anymore......
jsggems
12-27-2006, 07:53 AM
Chris Hightower has what your looking for also. He does have a website. Prices are fair also.
www.hightowercues.com/index.php?page=home
Bill's cues are awesome, but his waiting list might be a long one.
jsggems
12-27-2006, 07:57 AM
Hi. I'm new to these forums, so please bear with me.
I am looking to order a custom cue with a custom ring design. It's the design from a Tiffany ring that my friend wears, which I thought would look great on a cue. I emailed Bob Dzuricky of DZ Cues to ask him if he could make the ring design. He told me that he could not because he only has a 3-axis CNC and the design required a 4-axis CNC. So with this in mind, I was wondering if anyone here, especially those of you who have extensive cue collections, if you know of any cuemakers who have a 4-axis CNC that can make the Tiffany ring design for the trim rings on a cue?
I would post a picture of the ring, but I don't know how to do that. :( (If anyone can help me out with this part, I'd appreciate it.)
I appreciate any help that you folks can give me.
Fenris
If you want, send me the pics and I'll post them for you. Here's my E-Mail
jsggems@terra.com.br
audiopro
12-27-2006, 08:13 AM
Here's a pic of the ring provided by the original poster.. Very nice ring too I must say!
audiopro
12-27-2006, 08:15 AM
Also based on that, I am betting Richard Chudy could do what you need, but he is VERY expensive...
Hre is his site:
http://www.rc3cues.com/
And here is a cue that has some detailed work that kinda resembles the above ring:
http://homepage.mac.com/rskapura1/rc3/PhotoAlbum50.html
I belive that Keith Josey from Josey Custom Cues can make that ring as well - http://www.joseycues.com
jsggems
12-27-2006, 10:37 AM
All the names you see can do that for you. That ring design on a cue would look awsome.
Reminds me of the "Celtic Prince" cue that was made by Thomas Wayne and was full with celtic design inlays (was sold for $103,000)
and here is a picture of it......
Fenris
12-27-2006, 12:48 PM
Thank you all for all the replies so far. And thank you Audiopro for posting the pic.
Chris Hightower makes some very nice looking cues. I especially like the awesome lizard and python wraps. And the beadwork inlays definitely make his cues stand out from the rest. And his prices arevery reasonable. Anyone have one of his cues? How's the hit? Will definitely add him to my list...
Keith Josey may be just a bit too pricey for me based on the last time I emailed him about another cue design. I may have to email him again with my new design...
Richard Chudy also sounds expensive. I am trying to keep the max at $1500, $1200 if possible.
Some other cuemakers I am looking into are Mike Capone, Skip Weston, David Jacoby, and possibly Tim Scruggs. The only problem is that most of them will probably be too expensive for my plain-jane design. Oh, and as a side note, Skip Weston has 2 websites on google, one with a .com and one with a .net. Both have different email addresses for each. My question is which one is the correct/preferred one?
And as for the "Celtic Prince," all I can say is "Holy ----!" 8O Fitting name. :) I wonder what a "Celtic King" would look like... 8O
Thanks again for all the help. Please keep the cuemaker names coming though. I'm kinda new to custom cues and I don't know that many great cuemakers yet, but I'd sure like to learn about some. :)
Fenris
a lot of the custom cue makers that are doing inlays by hand can make your design, the problem is that it'll cost a lot because it's hard work and takes a lot off time.
Josey and McDaniel are two cue makers that I know for sure that are using top of the line CNC equipment that can get the job done and probably at lower cost then a "by hand" cue maker.
Another custom cue maker that defently can get the job done are Samsara cues - http://www.samsaracues.com
Fenris
12-27-2006, 03:05 PM
Ah. I know of Samsara. They can make some incredibly elaborate designs. I'll have to email them and see what they quote me.
I think even some of the cuemakers who use state of the art CNC will charge more just because of their reputation. Paul Mottey's starting price is $1500, which is my max! He and some other cuemakers are way out of my league in terms of price, at least for now ;)
I'm a bit more interested in the underrated or less well-known cuemakers, like Bob Dzuricky, as well as the more moderately priced well-knowns, like Jacoby.
Anyway, thanks for the Samsara suggestion. Keep 'em coming.
Fenris
The best advise I can give you is: Don't compromise on what you really want !!!
If you really want something and it's out of your budget then wait and save some more and get it!
If you compromise then the thought of "this is really not what I wanted..." will sit in the back of your head and will drive you mad...
audiopro
12-27-2006, 03:18 PM
The best advise I can give you is: Don't compromise on what you really want !!!
If you really want something and it's out of your budget then wait and save some more and get it!
If you compromise then the thought of "this is really not what I wanted..." will sit in the back of your head and will drive you mad...
Quoted for truth!
Fenris
12-28-2006, 08:50 AM
Well, right now, I just want a plain-jane player's cue. What I have in mind is an amboyna burl forearm and buttsleeve (preferably with a more reddish tone), black with white speck irish linen wrap, black phenolic joint and buttcap, radial pin, 19.0 oz., 12.75mm Moori tips (mediums or hards), white phenolic ferrule (or ivory if price allows), and finally the main design element, which I think is subtle but nice, the Tiffany rings at B, C, D and E positions (below the joint, above and below the wrap, and above the buttcap). My max budget for this is $1500, preferably $1200. Do you guys think any of the cuemakers you or I have mentioned can make this cue for that price? What about any cuemakers we haven't mentioned yet?
Fenris
audiopro
12-28-2006, 09:06 AM
Except for the Tiffany ring thing, I think a LOT of cuemakers could make something like for around a 1000 bucks. The only thing that might make it difficult is the ring design, since most cuemakers have a default style they like to use...
without the rings you can get that kind of a cue for $600 - $800.
with the rings it could go up to $1500 or even more depends on the material used for the ring.
check out mcworter cues - http://www.mcwortercues.com
Bryan Mordt is building good playing cues but I'm not sure if he can make that ring but it's worth asking him - http://www.bcmcue.com
got some info on McDaniel... this info is from another forum
Mcdaniel Custom Cues is now operated by Bill and Kathy Ryan, the shop is still in Jackson, TN. As of this post I have no info. on a new web site. The Ryans email address is kryan@stickmatters.com Cell phone number is 847 400-6035
Fenris
12-29-2006, 10:05 PM
Does that mean Bill McDaniel is no longer making cues?
And how good are the Ryans? Hmmm....
Fenris
nathar
12-29-2006, 11:23 PM
:idea: Have you ever thought of having a jeweler make the rings? Then you could just ship them to the cue maker for installation. I would think that a jeweler would be able to make rings in that fashion far cheaper than a cue maker.
Just a thought. 8)
I think it would look much better if it would be done with tiny inlays (like the celtic prince) rather then an actual ring, something like that:
now imagine this as ivory into ebony or cocobolo burl......
poohkiller
12-30-2006, 12:33 PM
I think it would look much better if it would be done with tiny inlays (like the celtic prince) rather then an actual ring, something like that:
now imagine this as ivory into ebony or cocobolo burl......
Well, I think that would look astonishing.. It would like... uhm... like this: http://img138.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prediintarziamm2.jpg
Hope this works^^! Sorry for the quality.. This is how I'd do it.. Only one is enough, it just doesn't have to be simmetrical.. But you might have for and so on.. I've downloaded GIMP picture editor to make this pic, and now that I'm done with it I know: it would be too expensive... But at all I like this window inlay... I'll try to find out something better ;o)[/img]
Nice work....
I was thinking about something like that......
Fenris
12-30-2006, 01:48 PM
That inlay in ivory would look great, vertically or around a cue.
However, what I envisioned for my design is close to what Nathar was suggesting. I basically want 3 or 4 of those Tiffany rings "transplanted" onto a cue, in nickel silver. For me, I think that would look great on a cue. Having the design be inlayed in ivory gives it a whole different sense of greatness, so to speak. But I'm looking for the nickel silver rings....
As for Nathar's suggestion of having a jeweler make them, I thought the cuemaker would have to make them to his specs so they fit exactly into his cue design, no? Good suggestion, though. I'll keep it mind; you never know. ;)
Fenris
Fenris
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