z shaft on a schon cx 03

[petieboinyj]

:D hello all

my name is sylvia and i am new to this forum.

i just ordered a Z shaft for my schon..good? bad?
i am currently using the schon shaft with a talisman tip and i have to say i am just starting to get used to my cue since i switched tips. i have had my schon for about 9 months and just couldnt get used to it.

my previous cue was a viking with a 314 shaft with a tiger tip. LOVED that cue. i want to get better at shooting pool but am STUCK...i dont know what i can do to become better and thus is why i ordered the z shaft...

PLEASE...you all seem like experienced players so any input would be great..

[dags_lax]

The Z shaft will play closer to your Schon/Schon shaft than your 314 and Viking combo. That may not be what you want to hear seeing you were a fan of the Viking/314 combo. I am not a big fan of the 314 shaft. To whimpy for my tastes. But I do like the Z shaft. Reduced deflection and better feel, compared to the 314, for what is going on. But, in my opinion, it still falls short of the feel of the Schon.

[nathar]

I have had my Z-shaft for a little over a month now, and I love it. As long as you have an idea of what to expect from it you should be happy.

As far as improving your game goes, have you ever thought about taking lessons. Not only did it help my game out, but when I started upgrading my equipment I had the understaning(to a certain degree) to make good use of those upgrades.

[petieboinyj]

i have thought about lessons...i dont know if you guys have heard of him but Joe Frady is at one of the local pool halls and i was thinking about getting some lessons from him.
so then the z shaft is a good buy???
i guess i will know when i use it...

another question....should i wait to changed the le pro tip to a talisman pro hard???

[audiopro]

I would not wait one minute to change the tip. Not sure if you will like the hard, the medium I like a little better, but either way get that LePro off.

[spartan]

On kind of a different note. "Neptune" Joe Frady is a great player and knows a ton. I would definately take a few lesons from him.

thanx a lot ...been a great help.

[dags_lax]

Just because a person is a great player and knows a ton doesn't mean that they will be able to teach it. Look into BCA certified instructors. Not only do they have the knowledge they have to have proven their ability to teach in order to get their certification.

Look at almost any professional sport and you will find that rarely do the great players make good coaches.

[spartan]

Joe Frady is a qualified teacher. He has a vast knowledge and is good with students. I certainly understand what you are saying and I for the most part agree but trust me he is very good with students I have seen it and know personally.

[dags_lax]

Joe may very well be a good instructor. I don't know. You say that I should trust you on this.

But it is exactly the issue of trust that leads me to recommend BCA certified instructors. BCA certification is not just an annual payment. It requires proven knowledge and a proven ability to teach. Also, depending on the level of certification, years of giving formal pool instruction.

It's not that I don't trust your advice Spartan. It's kind of like the back yard mechanic I used to recommend. If someone were to take their vehicle to a certified mechanic I would certainly understand why.

[dags_lax]

Rick: How about an additional discount on my next order for plugging BCA certified instrictors?

[spartan]

I agree, Dags. I took lessons with with a BCA certified instructor. It changed my game. While I dont know if he would qualify as a BCA certified instructor he knows some some neat tricks. I dont know if he would be a fully qualified instructor though.

:D hello all

my name is sylvia and i am new to this forum.

i just ordered a Z shaft for my schon..good? bad?
i am currently using the schon shaft with a talisman tip and i have to say i am just starting to get used to my cue since i switched tips. i have had my schon for about 9 months and just couldnt get used to it.

my previous cue was a viking with a 314 shaft with a tiger tip. LOVED that cue. i want to get better at shooting pool but am STUCK...i dont know what i can do to become better and thus is why i ordered the z shaft...

PLEASE...you all seem like experienced players so any input would be great..

I strongly recommend getting back to basics and not the shaft. Alot of times people complain or think it's their equipment. If you were getting great results with a Viking with 314 shaft, why did you change? Z shaft are for advance and intermediate players and it's very tempermental and unforgiven if you don't know what your doing or not use to thin shaft. I own both the Z and 314, and I really like both shafts. There's a certain usage for Z shaft and 314 in my opinion. I also strongly recommend getting a tip you like or used too. If you like the Tiger tip, put it on asap, don't just leave LePro on it because a unfamiliar tip can affect playability. Anyways, to sum it up, it's nice to buy a new equipments once in awhile to refresh your passion but normally it's not the equipment that is giving you problems. So, I suggest maybe you can have someone who knows about pool to watch you play or buy few instructional dvd's and see what your going wrong. I don't know about private lessions where it can cost you quite a bit. I suppose if you have the money and go for it but if your concern about the cost or not that serious then a good instructional video or dvd's is fine. I myself been out of pool for about little over 5 years and just started back into pool. I've bought few instructional dvd's to refresh my memory and to learn and so far it has proven decent results. 314's and Z's are excellent shafts in my opinion and I wouldn't use anything else. By the way, will Schon cues go less than 19oz?? I really like the designs of Schon's cues but 19oz is little to heavy for me.

[jkregan]

Find equipment that you are confortable with and can depend on. Once you do that, you can concentrate on your fundamentals knowing that your equipment will not let you down.

If you are confortable with your Viking and a Tiger tip, play with it. Once your game improves, you may decide to adjust your equipment.

The Z-Shaft is excellent and I can recommend the Talisman Pro tip as well. I would suggest you try the medium first unless you know you prefer a hard tip.

Good luck and when you decide to buy equipment, buy it from Seybert's. They will take care of you.

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