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i was wondering what i could do to improve my draw.. i'm unable to get hard draw even when i try.. can anyone offer tips and pointers on their methods of getting draw?
Four things will aid in improving draw:
1. Practice;
2. A softer tip;
3. A tip freshly scuffed;
4. Elevating the butt of the cue.
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06-28-2002, 01:15 PM
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euro star
06-28-2002, 02:21 PM
its just a matter of improving your stroke and timing :D
maughanm
09-27-2002, 08:39 AM
I improved my draw by watching Robert Byrnes Video.
He preached a couple of things I hadn't been doing that helped me. I make sure my tip is scuffed enough to accept plenty of chalk. That way I can keep the cue and tip at the very bottom of the ball. Keep the cue level as possible and the rest is up to your stroke. Now, if only I could make the long straight in shots. Any suggestions? 8)
PrimeTime
11-17-2002, 11:05 PM
First, practice learning to take your cue back slowly on your backswing, then, pause monetarily, then, stroke through the shot. Your bridge needs to be such that you truly are stroking through the cue ball.
Shooting down on the cue ball usually only leads to putting undesired spin on the cue ball. Stroking through the cue ball with a slightly elevated cue butt is okay but learn to develop a draw with a basically level stroke.
Watch the female pros use controlled draw......most of them all have a smooth, slow backswing followed by a slight pause before they stroke through the shot. A good analogy would be cocking the hammer on a double action revolver before you pull the trigger......in both cases this leads to less effort being needed and more accuracy being obtained.
Bert Kinster's videos have lots of good information on learning to develop a stroke and to control your draw......lke the Mighty X and Advanced Fundamentals.
Stay in stroke,
PrimeTime
I suggest using a moderately long level stroke with a hesitation on the backstroke. Attempt to generate speed on the forward stroke and make sure you are hitting the cue ball low and on the vertical axis. Most of the time error occurs bacause you are not hitting the ball where you think you are hitting it. Try looking at the cue ball last just to verify your accuracy on the cue ball. Remember the old physics formula: Force = Mass x Acceleration. Acceleration is a squared variable, sooo hit the ball smoothly and quickly!
GTH
Ziklag
02-12-2004, 11:09 AM
buy a Predator.
I couldn't draw a ball more than 6 inches with my old Players cue, but after the initial getting used to my new Predator. I can now draw the ball reliably the length of the table if needed.
wobster
02-12-2004, 11:37 AM
I agree that the predator helps, but it is not always the cue. I was having trouble drawing the ball when I was hitting hard because all my english was transferring to the object ball and the Cue stopped dead. With a long smooth stroke through the cue ball with the cue as level to the table as possible shooting soft, I can hit the ball almost at lag speed and draw it the length of the table.
One thing a lot of people do is hit too high on the cue ball. Scuff up your tip and you should be able to hit just slightly off the bottom of the ball and keep from miscueing.
wobster
02-12-2004, 11:38 AM
Also, do not choke the grip, this will not allow a lot of draw.
Tanar
02-12-2004, 11:39 AM
I am having a hell of a time getting draw on my new Z shaft, but i know the problem lies in my stroke and my head. I haven't played a good match or game since I lost $120 in a money game last week. :(
Confused
03-22-2004, 12:36 PM
i was wondering what i could do to improve my draw.. i'm unable to get hard draw even when i try.. can anyone offer tips and pointers on their methods of getting draw?
1. Good follow through
2. Hit the cueball below center (1 tip or more)
3. Have a stable stance
4. Use only your elbow, not the whole arm with shoulder
5. Stay still...move only your lower arm
6. Try to be as level as possible with the cue
7. At the point of impact lower shooting arm should form a 90 degree angle with the slate
8. Have a loose grip, don't hold the cue too tight
9. Have stable bridge...lower it if necessary
10. Make sure to finish the stroke...don't retract your cue
This works for any type of spin, not just draw...you just shoot at different location at the cue ball.
As you can see, there are many variables.
You'll ned some time alone at the table to master this. Don't be afraid if you miscue a little bit at the start. Please don't have the audience when you practice this!
Good players get table length draws with a house cue. Better cue/tip/tip shape helps of course, but it can't draw the cueball by itself...it's all in the stroke!
When you do hard long draws, don't go for 100% of cue speed, or you really might send the cueball off the table. More speed means more difficulty finding the exact spot to hit on the cueball.
For now, I can only control about 70% of max cue stick speed. Good enough for table length draw when the cueball and the object ball are at a distance of about 6-7 diamonds. And that's on a somewhat slow table.
Pro players can control close to 100% of the cue stick speed. They could do 2 or 3 table lengths of draw for sure if they wanted to.
KGeeEd
03-23-2004, 11:38 AM
First, practice learning to take your cue back slowly on your backswing, then, pause monetarily, then, stroke through the shot. Your bridge needs to be such that you truly are stroking through the cue ball.
Shooting down on the cue ball usually only leads to putting undesired spin on the cue ball. Stroking through the cue ball with a slightly elevated cue butt is okay but learn to develop a draw with a basically level stroke.
Watch the female pros use controlled draw......most of them all have a smooth, slow backswing followed by a slight pause before they stroke through the shot. A good analogy would be cocking the hammer on a double action revolver before you pull the trigger......in both cases this leads to less effort being needed and more accuracy being obtained.
Bert Kinster's videos have lots of good information on learning to develop a stroke and to control your draw......lke the Mighty X and Advanced Fundamentals.
Stay in stroke,
PrimeTime
I agree with you 100%. I have all of Bert's videos. I used to have a good draw that "amazed" a lot of players. Now after practicing what I have picked up from Bert my draw shot is unbelievable. I used to use draw or a little lowfor the majority of my shots. Ironically after doing Bert's drills my stroke and cueball position has improved so much that I very rarely use draw or low anymore. Most of my shots are center ball.
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