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audiopro
05-15-2005, 11:30 PM
For threads like this:
http://www.seyberts.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=8171#8171

And this:
http://www.seyberts.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=1657#1657

For a long time I had thought that jumping was not an important tool. But when I first joined this forum, dags words inspired me to give this jumping thing a shot.. So having finally got my own table about a year ago, I started to practice them. I don't have a jump cue, but I have become increasingly accurate with just a regular cue...

The end result? I am very glad I listened to the older and wiser. In the past 6 months I have not played at pool halls, just at home.. Well, being able to carry a jump shot in my bag of tricks, has got me out of a few tough places. One case in point tonight... Off the break in a 9 ball game, the cue ball snookered itself, and I had no shot on the next ball. I went with a jump, and not only made contact, but dropped the ball.. What followed was a 5 ball runout to win the game. It was a good feeling to have one that game, and I have to admit.. I felt pretty bad ass making that jump look so easy. :)

So.. Thanks dags!! 8)

LWW
05-15-2005, 11:35 PM
That's something I need to learn to do.

LWW

audiopro
05-15-2005, 11:56 PM
It totally sucked at first.. Every time I tried I was like, "WTF, this is F'ing impossible!!" But like many things, once ya hit it that first time, you get a GOOD idea of how to do it again.. From there, you just gotta beat the hell out of some cloth and practice..

When I practiced in the past I always used my break cue. But at the pool hall I have just been using my play cue, and I am actually better with it! I really want to try an actual jump cue and see if it improves things even more, but I dunno anyone with one... Should I just go on faith that it will help things even more? Right now I can typically get over a ball from about 8" away. Any closer than that, it is a 50/50 chance.

DEATHTRON
05-16-2005, 01:00 AM
I find that with a jump cue it lets you get those tight jumps done where your play cue cant. When you have more space in between balls i think the play cue is better, it lets you get more weight down on the cue ball. Thats my take on it at least.

LWW
05-16-2005, 08:14 AM
I think I'm going to try today.

LWW

audiopro
05-16-2005, 08:38 AM
I find that with a jump cue it lets you get those tight jumps done where your play cue cant. When you have more space in between balls i think the play cue is better, it lets you get more weight down on the cue ball. Thats my take on it at least.

One problem I have, is APA league does not permit switching cues during a match at al, except to break. So you would not even be allowed to use the jump cue, so may as well get better with doing it with a normal cue.

APA sucks! :(


I think I'm going to try today.

LWW

Let us know how it goes!! :D

LWW
05-16-2005, 08:56 AM
Well I got it to jump but not much.

LWW

DZ314
05-16-2005, 08:58 AM
BCA and ACS do allow the use of a jump cue. :wink:

LWW
05-16-2005, 08:58 AM
One problem I have, is APA league does not permit switching cues during a match at al, except to break.

APA changed that this year.

LWW

DZ314
05-16-2005, 08:58 AM
One problem I have, is APA league does not permit switching cues during a match at al, except to break.

APA changed that this year.

LWW

If that's right, COOL!!!!! :D

LWW
05-16-2005, 09:04 AM
Yep, you can use shooting cues, break cues, jump cues, and eben shorty cues if there is a pole in the way.

LWW

audiopro
05-16-2005, 09:05 AM
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APA changed that this year.

LWW

Uh uhh??!?!? No way Jose.. Really!?!? Is that just for your division, or is that a global change I wonder..

LWW
05-16-2005, 09:15 AM
It's in the "Official APA Rule Book" they handed out to all of us.

It doesn't specificly say you can but it no longer says you can't.

I assume it's national.

LWW

skor
05-16-2005, 09:16 AM
when I played with the APA, jump cues were not that popular or common, but ther was no problem with using a short cue when there was a pole or a wall too close to the table.

In relation to another thread regarding billiard association, just see how many organization are out there: APA, BCA, ACS, TAP, VNEA and I probably forgot a few, each association have different rules, different handicap system and so on, it's too confusing and it holds the sport back.

DZ314
05-16-2005, 09:18 AM
when I played with the APA, jump cues were not that popular or common, but ther was no problem with using a short cue when there was a pole or a wall too close to the table.

In relation to another thread regarding billiard association, just see how many organization are out there: APA, BCA, ACS, TAP, VNEA and I probably forgot a few, each association have different rules, different handicap system and so on, it's too confusing and it holds the sport back.

Yes, there needs to be one standard set of rules that are used. That would really help.

skor
05-16-2005, 09:22 AM
There are standard rules they are called "World Standardised Rules" that are also known as "WPA Standardized Rules" and as "BCA Rules"
only problem is that BCA league operator change the rules to fit their leagues

LWW
05-16-2005, 09:35 AM
I believe that, like APA. they franchise out areas so defacto they are not truly a governing body.

LWW

DZ314
05-16-2005, 09:38 AM
There are standard rules they are called "World Standardised Rules" that are also known as "WPA Standardized Rules" and as "BCA Rules"
only problem is that BCA league operator change the rules to fit their leagues

I know, and that is the issue. They are not forced to abide by the absolute set standard, and it causes inconsistency in the game which we do not need.

ThePoolHustler
05-16-2005, 06:18 PM
when I played with the APA, jump cues were not that popular or common, but ther was no problem with using a short cue when there was a pole or a wall too close to the table.

In relation to another thread regarding billiard association, just see how many organization are out there: APA, BCA, ACS, TAP, VNEA and I probably forgot a few, each association have different rules, different handicap system and so on, it's too confusing and it holds the sport back.

Yes, there needs to be one standard set of rules that are used. That would really help.

I agree. I am going to form the "PPA"...Professional Pool Association...and eliminate all the others. lol

LWW
05-16-2005, 08:13 PM
and eliminate all the others. lol
Which one of deeze wizeguize da youse want eliminated?

LWW