sneaky pete design from IL?

[stringz18]

Hi everybody,

I'm very excited to say that i just ordered my first pechauer cue, and absolutely can't wait to get it in the mail (jp-05). I'll post again after i've played with it for a while and let you all know if its up to par.

anyway my question is about a pechauer sneaky pete model. a friend of mine at the poolhall plays a pech sneaky pete that has an "all light colored wood butt" (possibly birdseye, but not too sure), and that has four points that aren't really solid points, just black outlines, and a w2w joint.

I know this description sucks, sorry, but i heard it rumored that the cue was designed at a place called Ride the Nine hear in my town of Normal/Bloomington IL. Is this true? I looked for it here and on J. Pechauer's web page, and did not see the design. Just curious i guess.

P.S. I've looked like crazy through forums till my eyes bled and couldn't really find a good answer that was agreed upon as to how to keep a shaft clean and slick without worrying about damage. if you guys feel like tackling this issue again... well i'd appreciate it so i can keep my new peach all nice and happy. Thanks guys. have a good one

[dags_lax]

A lot of so called sneaky petes are just one pice butts with veneer pionts seperating two different stains. The easy way to tell is just see if the grain pattern contiues from one stain color to the next.

[stringz18]

raha, for a second there i thought dags had lost it. i couldn't figure out what on earth your response had to do with my question. Then it dawned on me - i didn't mean the design concept of the cue in general (one piece butt etc..). i wondered about the origin of the specific asthetics of that individual cue, and why they don't advertise it on their website as its pretty sharp. Its no big deal. I heard that its looks came from a guy in my town and i thought that was pretty cool, though i have my doubts as i don't know what on earth j.p. would be doing here... anyway, sorry i doubted your sanity Dags : )

...although someone who's on these forums as much as you is definitely going to lose it sooner than later ;) i about lost it when searching for info before i settled on the pechauer! I've read quite a few of your posts in my hunt for the right cue, what type of pool do you shoot the most?

[skor]

P.S. I've looked like crazy through forums till my eyes bled and couldn't really find a good answer that was agreed upon as to how to keep a shaft clean and slick without worrying about damage. if you guys feel like tackling this issue again... well i'd appreciate it so i can keep my new peach all nice and happy. Thanks guys. have a good one

If you want to "keep a shaft clean and slick without worrying about damage" then I suggest that you don't use it..........., a pool cue is the tool of the pool player and wear & tear is something that should be accepted.

there is no way of keeping it clean and smooth without damaging it, it may take a few years to see or feel the damage but it's there, there is no magic, it's wood and it has a "life time"

[showboat]

UMMMM..........I don't think cue shafts have a lifetime. Once the shaft has been 'seasoned' from playing and such, you'll probably need to only do periodic mild cleaning. A short while back I had a customer bring in a 40 yo Gus Szamboti and wanted me to take as much blue out of it as possible. I did this by putting it my lathe and using my technique with a brillo pad and my cleaner with water, I got most of it out. My point is that once a shaft is seasoned it can take being cleaned periodically without being 'damaged'.

[dags_lax]

what type of pool do you shoot the most

For the last year I have been using a Nova coupled to a Sharpshooter shaft with a Kamui tip. If you go to http://www.seyberts.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2375&start=15 it is, not counting the jump cues, the 5th cue in from the left. For probably nine of the before that I used a Schon. The 6th cue from the left. And the one year in that span that I didn’t the Schon I use a Jackson. The 7th cue from the left. From about 1980 or 81, until acquiring my Schon, I used a McDermott. The 11th cue from the left. Before that I used house cues.

That is probably more than you wanted to know stringz but my keyboard must have diarrhea this morning.

[skor]

Dags, I think he wanted to know what game do you play (8ball, 9ball etc.)
and not what you play with

[skor]

My point is that once a shaft is seasoned it can take being cleaned periodically without being 'damaged'.

If water touches the wood the grain will rise and it will change how the wood perform, over the years this change is drastic compared to the wood when the shaft is new, we don't feel or see it because the changes are so small at each time that we get used to it.
Sanding the shaft will also damage the shaft.
Hitting the cue ball will damage the shaft, it puts pressure on it and on striking the cue ball the shaft bend and act like a spring this process will damage the shaft over time and the shaft will warp at some point.
You can't use something and not expect it to wear and tear, if you hadle it right and take care of it then it will last longer but not forever, I bet that the Szamboti shaft that was brought to you does not feel or perform as it did 40 years ago, it might still be straight but the wood inside went through some changes over the years that are affecting how it plays.

[stringz18]

thanks for the picture there dags, thats a nice collection to be sure. The figure on the forearm of the nova is great and real sharp/unique looking inlay work too. i was curious about what games you play the most, but that is a cool picture non the less.

also thank you skor for your replies as well. i know what you mean about not possibly being able to keep a shaft perfect... unfortunately. I just wondered about day to day maintenence, ie. just wipe it down with a soft towel and be done with it, combined with the use of some of those 'magic potions' that are out there periodically. but i can move that question to a more suitable forum area as it doesn't really belong here.

[dags_lax]

Sorry, I can't even read today. I play eightball for my "boys night out" league and an occasion league tournament or if my sons want shoot a few games when they are visiting. But when I go out to play pool it is pretty much nineball. I haven't played any straight pool or snooker for probably thirty years.

[8BALLAWHILE]

30 YEARS AGO SNEAKY PETE WAS PRONOUNCED "HUSTLER", I REALLY MISS THE PROPER PRONOUNCIATION , AS SNEAKY PETE SOUNDS CHEAP. I HAVE A PECHAUER AND I REFUSE TO LET ANYONE CALL IT A SNEAKY PETE, IT IS SO MUCH MORE WORTHY. HOPE I HAVEN'T OFFENDED ANYONE.

[showboat]

My point is that once a shaft is seasoned it can take being cleaned periodically without being 'damaged'.

If water touches the wood the grain will rise and it will change how the wood perform, over the years this change is drastic compared to the wood when the shaft is new, we don't feel or see it because the changes are so small at each time that we get used to it.
Sanding the shaft will also damage the shaft.
Hitting the cue ball will damage the shaft, it puts pressure on it and on striking the cue ball the shaft bend and act like a spring this process will damage the shaft over time and the shaft will warp at some point.
You can't use something and not expect it to wear and tear, if you hadle it right and take care of it then it will last longer but not forever, I bet that the Szamboti shaft that was brought to you does not feel or perform as it did 40 years ago, it might still be straight but the wood inside went through some changes over the years that are affecting how it plays.

I agree wholeheartedly...wood definately goes through changes as it ages. And they are so minute that they are not noticable. But that also doesn't mean that the shaft is ready for the trash heap. Keeping the sandpaper away is an absolute must for shaft longevity...[/b]