A cushion test?

[maughanm]

I'm about to invest in a 1940s Bruswick 9 footer that I have been drooling over for years. Played on it the other day and the cushions don't seem quite as fast as the ones on the other table I have. Is there a way of testing them to see if they need replacing? I don't want to re wrap the rails and then find out the cushions really needed replacing. I want this to be a top notch table when I get done with it. Advise from any of you pool table mechanics? 8) Mike

[audiopro]

I would say if you are taking the time to restore it right, then replace the cushions while you re-felt it.

[DZ314]

I would say if you are taking the time to restore it right, then replace the cushions while you re-felt it.

Yep, I would say it is worth the trouble to replace the cushion rubber to be certain that they will play up-to-par.

[skor]

I think that if you're going to invest time and money in this table then replace cushions even if just to be on the safe side, I don't know how much money you're going to put into it but a set Artemis cushions (which are one of the best) go for about $200

[skor]

check this out
http://www.billiardsexpress.com/raigaugepage.htm

Thanks for the input...I felt like that would be the thing to do...I'm thinking on the line of Championship 3030 rather than Simonis for the cloth...any comments? Skor, I've never seen that gadget before... 8) thanks, mike

[maughanm]

I must be color blind...I thought I was logged in....m

[spartan]

go with the simonis 860 i have it on my table and there isnt anything better. it will last a long time and it plays better than anything else.

[skor]

Actualy the 760 will last longer, the 860 was design with performance in mind and to give the perfect speed for 9 ball.
I would still get the 860 over the 760, Championship 3030 is a good cloth and I think it's quite up to the level of Simonis 860.

[spartan]

skor you are right 760 will last longer but the 860 will last a long time also and the quality is second to none.

[jkregan]

According to the Simonis website, 860 is more durable but a bit slower than 760. Playing 9-ball on 760 will wear the area under the rack and the 'alleys' from the corners of the head string to the head ball rather quickly.

[spartan]

you also have to factor in price i just had my 9 foor gold crown IV recovered with the 860 and it cost 600 bucks. for that reason you might want to get the 760.

[spartan]

also no matter what get the bruswick centennial balls. the aramith balls leave alot of scraches and arent as durable.

[jkregan]

Brunswick and Aramith balls are both made by Sulac in Belgium. The Super Aramith Pro balls and Centennial balls are both superior balls to anything else out there.

The Super Aramith Pro balls have a vitrified surface, a little like case hardening metal. This reduces friction between the ball and the cloth, reducing wear on both the ball and the cloth.

[spartan]

i meant the cheapo aramith set (the set that came with my table). ive never used the super pro set. all the pool rooms i go to have brunswick tables and centennials.

[jkregan]

I grew up playing on Brunswick tables with Centennial balls as well. Centennials are excellent balls; absolutely top quality. The Super Aramith Pro balls are in a tie for best balls with the Centennials. I have found, however, that the prices for the Super Aramith Pro balls are usually discounted below the price for Centennials. Why pay more for the Centennials unless you are hooked on the logo around the numbers.

[jkregan]

My previous post presumes I even actually grew up.

[DZ314]

LMAO, very good dry humor! I prefer the look of the centennials, but the Super Pro's work! I have a buddy who owns both sets and alternates between them on his Gold Crown IV 9'. 8)

[audiopro]

I've got the Super Pro's on my table at home. The pool hall I shoot at has the Brunswicks. I typically like the pool halls better, but that is because they polish theirs daily.

[skor]

you also have to factor in price i just had my 9 foor gold crown IV recovered with the 860 and it cost 600 bucks. for that reason you might want to get the 760.

600 BUCKS :!: :!: :!: , here at seyberts they charge $189 for simonis 860 for a 9' table, let's say you got riped off and you payed $250 for it, do you want to say that somebody charged you $350 for the labor ???
If that's the case then maybe I should start a business of replacing cloths :twisted:

[audiopro]

600 sounds about right for the cloth and recovering charges here in FL, after tax, tag and title...

[skor]

:idea: Why not do it yourself :?:

[audiopro]

Yeah, it is a lot to spend. Me and my dad did one ourselves years ago. With the table I have now I re-laid the slate cloth after moving the table to my house, but I did not do the rails. The rails look a bit trickier to me and in lieu of hosing things up and having to pay all over again, I would likely let a professional do it when it comes to the rails.

[spartan]

they pretty much have to disassemble the table to put the cloth on. also, they put in new cushoins and new pockets so id pay extra knowing it was done right. so when you think about it its not that much.

[spartan]

i wanted the best in my basement. i got the gold crown IV 9 foot centennial balls, a nice fixture, 860 cloth. if youre gona get the best, you might as well make sure its done right.