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mechmat
10-15-2004, 12:59 PM
So it seems this is one of the most hottly contested elections in many years, and a lot of people will do anything they can to get thier candidate elected. But many people in my state seem to be resorting to illegal acts and dirty tricks to get an edge. Here are a few examples:

1.) We've all been bugged by the people hanging out at supermarkets, libraries, and just about any public place that has a lot of traffic trying to get us to register to vote this year. The problem is, this year a lot of these people were paid per person they register rather than per hour. This is illegal and all voters who registered through the people acting illegally were required to re-register.

2.) In an attempt to get rid of some Democratic votes, the head of the Nevada Republican party sent a list of 17,000 registered Democrats who had not updated their address information to the State Supreme Court, asking that their right to vote to be denied this year. These names were presented after registration was closed to make sure they could not update their information before the election. Their efforts were partially thwarted, as these people were told they could vote in national elections but not local elections.

3.) Last, but certainly not least, today a man who was hired by a group called Outreach For America to register voters said that hundreds of people that they received voter registration forms from had their forms destroyed because they marked the 'Democrat' box. The leader of this organization is also being investigated for similar practices in Oregon. The Nevada Democratic Party is currently suing the Clark County registrar to extend the voter registration deadline to allow these people to re-register.

My question is whether these types of practices are happening in other parts of the country by members of either party. I understand that both sides feel it is imperative that their candidate gets elected, but when some people resort to illegal practices they are undermining everything that is good about the democratic process.

And to those of you who live in Florida, has anything been done to in your state to improve the voting process and avoid the fiasco we had 4 years ago?

audiopro
10-15-2004, 01:43 PM
Pfft... The possibility exists that maybe we have learned to count here in FL, but seems a whole new list of voting problems are coming to light.. I think it is likely we will see problems up to, and following the election... It is getting somewhat obnoxious now in my opinion.. I mean, why is it all the sudden people are resorting to such drastic measures???

Here is one of many articles from our local news..
http://www.wftv.com/news/3823601/detail.html

mechmat
10-16-2004, 09:03 PM
Update: A judge ordered today that people who had their registration destroyed by Outreach For America will not be allowed to re-register to vote. Chalk one up for the bad guys.

audiopro
10-16-2004, 11:29 PM
That sounds pretty stupid.. I am sure he gave some good reason???? I mean what am I missing..

DZ314
10-16-2004, 11:36 PM
Yeah, give us all of the info please. thanks

mechmat
10-17-2004, 02:04 AM
Basically she said that only 2 actual registrations that had been torn up had been found (even though the guy who told her about it said there were hundreds) and that wasn't enough people to re-open registration, and that each person that had their registration torn up would have to file a complaint individually. Here's the article:

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2437429&nav=168XS3j8

audiopro
10-17-2004, 08:01 AM
Well without a doubt I think that is incredibly stupid. This years election is certainly turning out to be a joke. That is just ridiculous.

CJK
10-18-2004, 11:59 AM
The problem is that we took voter registration from the county voter registration office level and allow it to happen anywhere (the Motor-Voter legislation). As soon as you do that, and pay people to register others, you open the system up for fraud -- and not that of any particular party. If I'm told I get paid by the name, or I get a bonus if I get X number registered, I could easily come up with X names and addresses, just to meet my quota.