New shafts

[rodrigo1508]

Found this. There are new shafts from macdermott
http://www.mcdermottcue.com/PAGES/I%20Shafts/Home.htm

[skor]

too bad they don't give to much info

[DEATHTRON]

Seyberts has some limited info on them in the mcderrmot section.

Zach

[Steve Suhm]

Hey guys, thanks for taking interest...I'm willing to provide info on the shafts here or via email if you have questions. I would like to continue to build the FAQ section of our site.

Send questions to:
ssuhm@mcdermottcue.com

Or post them here.

Thanks, Steve

[Danieli]

I'm willing to provide info on the shafts...
Hey Steve,
How is the ferrule joined to the shaft? Is it screwed and glued like regular McD shafts? What material is it made of? Is it capped? gapped? or what?

Thanks for your help.

[Steve Suhm]

Ferrule Notes on I Shafts straight from our Production Manager:

Glued and screwed
Ivorine III
Open ended (meaning, most importantly, wood is touching the tip)

Will add this question to the FAQ. Thanks!

[skor]

what is the "Carbon Energy technology", is it a composite material of wood and carbon ?, if so then what is the ratio between the two materials and how does it affect the feel of the shaft?, is it like the composite shaft that Longoni have been making for a while now ?
does it make the shaft lighter ?

[dags_lax]

Also is the shaft available with matching ringwork for the Mcdermott Masterpiece join?

[Steve Suhm]

Intimidator Carbon Energy (I.C.E.) is the key to the shafts. There is a carbon fiber "shaft" inside the Intimidator shafts. By putting this thinner, carbon fiber "shaft" inside of a standard shaft, you receive all the benefits of the carbon fiber.

Radial consistency, extremely warp resistent, reduced cue ball deflection, great durability...

Does it make the shaft lighter? Actually, a 13mm I-Shaft is the same weight as our standard shafts.

Can we make I-Shafts to match Masterpiece cues? Yes...we can do matching shaft ringwork on ANY McDermott cue we've ever made...whether it is I-Shafts or standard shafts.

Thanks again, Steve

[skor]

So you basicly made a shaft like the Cuetec VORTEX shaft with different tapers available.

[Steve Suhm]

Several major differences between Vortex and Intimidator shafts

1. Our carbon fiber rod is made by Easton Sports, the world's leader in high performance sports equipment.

http://www.easton.com/index_flash.php

2. The insert is a circular rod which achieves the radial consistency.

3. The shaft wood is not cut into sections. This eliminates the problem of the shaft splitting at any of the seems.

[gnurf]

Compared to Predatos 314 shafts how do they feel ? Do they feel the same ? Do you got more/less deflection ?

And can I get some more info on the 3 diffrent shafts on how they work/feel ?

[rodrigo1508]

will they come only as shafts or will there be a line of cues with them

[Steve Suhm]

Regarding "Feel"...that is something you will have to answer. "Feel" is different for every player. We've done our homework on the I-Shafts though...tried many combinations of tips, tapers, diameters, etc...and choose the combination that got the best reviews for "feel". We are very high on our shafts and believe to be offering something the competition is not offering.

Regarding the differences:
I-1: A stiffer shaft...13mm diameter. Great for breaking and for beginning players
http://www.mcdermottcue.com/PAGES/I%20Shafts/i1%20Super%20Power.htm

I-2: Slim the shaft down, extend the taper, a bit softer tip. A more advanced shaft. Tremendous reduction in cue ball deflection.
http://www.mcdermottcue.com/PAGES/I%20Shafts/i2%20Super%20Control.htm

I-3: Slim down the shaft even further, softer tip than I-2, very advanced shaft.
http://www.mcdermottcue.com/PAGES/I%20Shafts/i3%20Super%20Feel.htm

If you have been playing with a standard shaft for many years, and are an amateur player, I would recommend the I-2. Beginners should start with the I-1 so the eventual leap to the I-2 is easier to make. The favorite for "feel" among the players we tested was the I-3 shaft though...but it takes a high level of skill and experience to handle that thin of a shaft. (11.75mm) I-1 shafts make great break shafts too.

Edwin Reyes has ben making shafts like that for years! They have stolen his ideas!

[skor]

been deleated

[mechmat]

Why do the tips get softer from I-1 to I-3 instead of the other way around? It seems like better players usually favor a little harder tip for more consistancy and less experienced players tend to favor a softer tip to help generate more spin.

[skor]

Actually it's the opposite, better players are going for a softer tip because of the feel and more spin, for a beginner it's better to start with a hard tip because :
a. beginner should not use side spin
b. Until a beginner will develop a good stroke a hard tip generate more speed.
c. Hard tips require less maintenance, something that a beginner would not know how to do.
d. A hard tip will force a beginner to learn not to shoot hard and play with finesse.

Once a player has a good foundation of the basics, good aim and a good stroke, he/she now can get a softer tip and work on spin and speed control.

[mechmat]

But don't you think most better players favor harder tips rather than softer ones? I know if I bought one the first thing I'd need to do is replace the tip.

[skor]

If you feel that you have more control with a harder tip then go for it, but don't get offended when I say that I think you are not a top level player (I don't know you, and maybe you are, if that is the case then I take it back), low and med players might want to use hard tip in order to compensate for bad stroke, while a top and pro players know how to get more action from the cue ball by stroking it better and they control the cue ball better with the soft tip, that takes knowledge and a lot of practice.

Most pro players are using soft to med tips.

[mechmat]

Well, when I say that I think better players tend to prefer harder tips, I'm not simply speaking of my own opinion. I have heard this countless times, from countless sources (including several pros), and probably even a couple of times on this site. I believe that most pros use medium to hard tips.

I appreciate your input on the subject, but would like to hear the opinions of others, and hopefully hear from Mr Suhm as to what led to the decision of using soft tips on the I-3s.

[DEATHTRON]

Soft tip=more control no matter who you. They wanted to create a shaft that has more control, thus the softer tip. You guys are reading way too much into this i think, or maybe im not reading enough into it. Either one.

Zach

[skor]

DEATHTRON,
I guess you're right ;)
you can always get the shaft that you feel that is right for you and replace the tip with the brand/hardness that you like.

Edwin Reyes has been stealing from everybody else for years, so I guess it's o.k to steal a bit back ;)
I just dropped by and saw this old post, can you please elaborate. Are you willing to present proof to back your claim. FYI, I do have the ER240 registered with the Intellectual Property Office.

I can be PM'd at AzB, skor. I don't understand why you had to state such when I've stayed away from this forum as respect to the owner and users. Other people's remarks are not my responsibility so your defammatory statement against my person is way out of line.
Edwin Reyes

[Edwin Reyes]

Still no reply?! It's is quite unfortunate when a prominent figure, pool god skor, in a community, Seybert's Discussion Board, grandstands and start posting unfounded lies. And from somebody who even posted about bopping Strickland in the head for not signing a kids cast, not owning up and be responsible for such malicious statement is extremely dumbfounding.

Maybe you can show a copy of a court document that states that I, Edwin Reyes, has been convicted of "stealing"! Please don't make a mistake and think that this"ll just blow away and I'm sure that no one here wants to see this escalating.

Edwin Reyes< nice pic with Django and Bebeng and also think that it's quite unfortunate that we were not properly introduced in Cardiff

[audiopro]

Holy dead thread resurection!!!

[DZ314]

Whoa, yeah this is an oldie huh? 8O

[skor]

Edwin,
I googled your name a long time ago and found some of these accusation, the reson I didn't respond until now is because I was trying to find them again and for the last few days without luck.
1. I should have checked my sources better before I made that post, I guess I was wrong doing that and regardless if it's true or not I apologize.
2. My post has been deleated by me.
3. Although we were not properly introduced in Cardiff, we did meet and talked a bit, you had a unique case made from straw if I remember correctly.
4. Since we don't get many cue makers visit our forum, how about sharing some insights of the world and life of a cue maker, how about posting some pictures of 'work in progress' and finished cues.

[Edwin Reyes]

Edwin,
I googled your name a long time ago and found some of these accusation, the reson I didn't respond until now is because I was trying to find them again and for the last few days without luck.
1. I should have checked my sources better before I made that post, I guess I was wrong doing that and regardless if it's true or not I apologize.
2. My post has been deleated by me.
3. Although we were not properly introduced in Cardiff, we did meet and talked a bit, you had a unique case made from straw if I remember correctly.
4. Since we don't get many cue makers visit our forum, how about sharing some insights of the world and life of a cue maker, how about posting some pictures of 'work in progress' and finished cues.

You didn't find those post for the very same reason that you deleted yours. They were lies and I didn't let it slide. I'm sure that no one in this respectable board will too if they were in my shoes.
1. Apology accepted.
2. Thank you
3. Quite unique wasn't it? Unfortunately it was already trashed in transit, when the airline took it for a tour of Europe without my consent, when you saw it. LOL. My Thank yous again to the UAE contigent that was there in Cardiff for its retrieval.
4. The other cuemakers probably share my reason too for the limited exposure here and it's mainly based on business ethics aside from some jealous jellies that may litter this forum. I've seen some old posts here where they act like they were my fan just to get people to react negatively towards me.

Insight on the life of a custom cuemaker? It's not rewarding for those who are just into it for the money. Constantly upgrading equipment and procuring exceptional materials is a must when satisfaction comes from overwhelming the engineering and artistic challenges of cuecrafting. Only then will financial rewards follow.

Thank you skor and best wishes to you.
Edwin Reyes

[audiopro]

That sucks Edwin about the case... I will be doing a bit of traveling this year, and would like to bring my cue. but since the silly FAA has put cues on the no carry on list, it will be staying at home... :cry:

[skor]

Greg, I though you don't fly :wink:
any way, you should get the porper traveling case if you change your mind

[Edwin Reyes]

That sucks Edwin about the case... I will be doing a bit of traveling this year, and would like to bring my cue. but since the silly FAA has put cues on the no carry on list, it will be staying at home... :cry:
It did suck but partly my fault for assuming that the usual airline security applies to the route I'm taking. It is irritating that everybody suffers from the insane actions of the few. I sure miss that little rubber gecko lizard that sits on top of the case. :(

[audiopro]

Greg, I though you don't fly :wink:
any way, you should get the porper traveling case if you change your mind

I hate hate hate to fly. But a good friend in AZ is getting married in december. It's about a 4 day drive, so that is out.. Looks like I have no choice but to fly...

The case still would not help matters though, with the way stupid airlines lose luggage...

[skor]

This is why player must have a "traveling kit":
1. Good solid case but cheap like Giuseppe or Porper
2. Porper traveling case
3. Cues for traveling, leave the Niti at home
The air-lines have insurance for lost luggage and if something get lost you'll get money to buy new one, so if it's a production cue or case then no big deal you just get a new one.

btw always empty the pouches of the case and put whatever you had in there in your suitcase, that goes for the jump cue handle as well 8)

[audiopro]

Yeah, if one must travel via flight, a travel set is a good idea.. I really do not want to fly anyways, but not much choice... :cry:

I checked on a train, and it is a 58 hour ride... :cry:

[skor]

Just drive there, take a few days off work and enjoy the drive you could always stop at every pool hall on the way and play the locals for gas money :twisted: ..... are you eddie falson... I hear you've been looking for me :wink:

[DZ314]

lol, I love that!

[audiopro]

That would be at last 8 days total driving time... WAY too much time off... Way too much gas, especially at 2.50 a gallon!! :cry:

[Edwin Reyes]

Ever thought of FedExing your cue to your friend?

[Neil]

That is sage advice, I will NEVER take my cues on a trip, they will always go FedEx or UPS.

I have heard too many horror stories about airlines "losing" cue cases, personally I probably know 6 instances. It costs a bit more, but you can insure it easier and have more peace of mind.

[audiopro]

Ever thought of FedExing your cue to your friend?

Yeah, that is something my dad does regularly. He flies about 15-20 segments a month, and never checks important stuff. He will always FedEx it down to the various clients a day before..

Still.. I hate hate hate flying... :oops:

[skor]

If you like too, then I can ask my friend Scotty to beam you over there

[audiopro]

Spaceballs

"Why didn't anyone tell me my ass was so big!!!?!?"

[skor]

ok, I didn't want to bring it up but Greg you have a big ass :twisted:

[audiopro]

"Forget it! Forget it!! NO MORE BEAMING!!! This time, I'm gonna walk!!"

[DZ314]

Yeah, and then he walks through the door and into the room where he was going to be beamed to. It took like all of 8 steps walking to get there. :lol: