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Do you get more deflection with harder or softer tips?
Is there any one brand that will give you less deflection?
Tanar
08-23-2004, 06:41 PM
The tip has very little if anything at all to do with deflection. Deflection happens with the shaft of the cue moving the cueball off at an angle as the cue passes through the cue ball. I am sure someone will post the Predator website link to their explanation on deflection. The softness or hardness of the tip dictates how much grab their is on the cue ball while applying english. It is also a "feel" thing as a harder tip will feel harder and soft, softer. So, in my opinion, changing your tip won't help with deflection.
audiopro
08-23-2004, 11:54 PM
I would agree with Tanar.. However, I may be a bad example as I have never considered deflection a problem.. Instead I consider it part of the game, which can actually be controlled with practice...
I never experimented with tips until I ventured to this board.. I heard lots of opinions on various tips, so I decided to play around a bit.. What I found was softer tips offered the ability to control the cue ball with greater detail, but at the cost of consistency.. Meaning, if you dont watch the tips wear, it will bite ya in the gludious maximus! A medium or hard tip is more consistent. However, if you consider miscuing consistently a good thing, you have a problem.. A medium or soft tip is best in my opinion.. You just have to watch it's wear, and maintain accordingly...
I beleive that the shape of the tip will affect deflection.
bill190
08-24-2004, 10:29 AM
I beleive that the shape of the tip will affect deflection.
Yes, I have read that. However, I have not seen the results of any deflection testing where they used the same shafts with different tip shapes! (You would think someone would do this???)
Also the following test results are interesting in that the shafts near the top all have dime shaped tips...
http://www.platinumbilliards.com/rating_deflect.php
It is known that in order to reduce deflection, the front end of the shaft (including the tip) should be lighter, that is why the predator shaft is hollow in the front end and that is why the Z shaft is with a smaller diameter ( I guess they learned that from the snooker cues that comes with a diameter of 9-11mm and do have less deflection then common pool cues).
The tip is part of the shaft when thinking of deflection and the lighter the tip is, the less deflection the shaft will apply, Now most tips are very light and their weight is realy neglectable when it comes to deflection.
Don't confuse misscue or the natural curve that the cue ball will pick up when applying side spin.
I myself tried several tips with different hardness on the same shaft (Predator 314) and I didn't notice any difference in the level of deflection.
BTW, playing with heavier balls will give better results and less deflection
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