Best way to repair BK Shaft

[StB]

I'm sure that there is probably a topic somewhere on this board about the best way to repair a nick in a shaft, but there is a lot of info to sort through here so I thought I would just ask again.

Here is my situation, my father was shooting with my BK cue at a retirement community in Florida. What does that have to do with anything you may ask? Well, they have a ceiling fan above the pool table. Whap, whap whap, three HUGE impressions in the shaft. Don't suppose that's covered by the Predator warranty?

Anyway, I tried lightly sanding the shaft, but I haven't been able to put a dent in it...sorry for the pun. I don't have a lathe, or a job so I can't send the shaft somewhere to be fixed. Anyone have some low cost ideas for me?

Thanks.

[audiopro]

Sanding is bad if ya bring it down to much or alter the radial consistency. There is a method used on conventional shafts where you take a bit of water and an iron to heat the ding, and it will raise the impression up. Works wonderfully on regular shafts. However because Predators are spliced and I think glued, they likely don't recommend this procedure.

[wobster]

Well, if you want to, you can send it to me and I will do it for $10 plus return shipping. I have a steamer and a local cue maker showed me how to remove dings. I can't guarantee I can get it out, but I have gotten out quite a few DEEP gouges. The safest way of course is send it to predator.

[skor]

steaming the wood may clear the dings but it is also alter the inside of the wood, changing the strength of the wood.
I rather have some dings then a broken or warp shaft.

[audiopro]

I agree it will change the properties of the shaft. But unless you are doing it a lot, the fix should not damage the shaft. The damage it would do would be less noticable than a ding. Like said, unless you are doing it a lot. In which case you need to stop throwing your cue around so carelessly. :)

[wobster]

You could be right, but I haven't had any problems with my cues while doing it or having it done. I have done it to my current cue twice and my break cue a few more times because it gets used by about 5 people, so it takes a beating. I have done it for a few other people as well and they have had nothing but good to say. However, there is a guy on a league around here that has a really hazardous method of doing this. What he does it gets a sopping wet rag, holds in on the ding and used a propane torch to force the moisture in. I would think a steamer would do better than that.

Maybe Neil can weigh in on this.

[Neil Fujiwara]

YOU DO NOT WANT TO STEAM THE SHAFT!

With that said, use a single drop of water on the dent, it should bring it right up if the pulp is not broken. If it is persistent, use a decent (600-1000) piece of sand paper to open up the pores in the dent, then use a drop of water. Let it sit overnight and voila! You might have to sand the dent down if it raises the grain too far.

Wood doesn't like two things: Fire and Water, steaming a shaft brings both of those together.

[wobster]

whoops. Thanks Neil. I will have to give it a try.

[audiopro]

Yeah, I have never tried it by simply applying one drop and letting it sit overnight. I will have to go put a ding in my shaft tonight to try it too!!

Just kidding, but I will keep it mind for when it does happen. Sounds a lot safer..

Thanks Neil! Now we know why they pay you the big bucks!! :-P

[skor]

audiopro, you can try it on your broken Viking shaft... :)
let us know how it works

[audiopro]

I just sent it out for display at the Smithsonian museum. ha ha... j/k :-P

Actually I have a couple other dinged cues I can give it a try with. The Camel Cash bought cue my dad uses for breaking will do. It has some really nasty dents, so it should provide for a great testing environment.

[CJK]

If you have trouble with the water staying in the dent, you can also wet a tiny ball of toilet paper or Kleenex (not anything with lotion or scents), then stick it to the dent.

Then, take your father to Wal-Mart and buy him a $15 cue to use as a fan stopper. :)

[audiopro]

Then, take your father to Wal-Mart and buy him a $15 cue to use as a fan stopper. :)

lol.. Nice!

[StB]

Thanks everyone. I will try the water droplet, it shouldn't have a problem staying in there with as deep as it is.

And his cue privileges have been revoked.

[maughanm]

STB...another thought....I sent mine to Seyberts and had it turned down to 12.25....in the process, it took all the dents out.....I have both a 13 and a 12.25 now....but prefer shooting with the smaller one...Forgot what it cost, but it was very little.....2 cents is better than a penny.. 8) ..mike

[StB]

Mike,

I like 12.25mm better than the stock 12.75mm, but also had a problem with a 314 cracking on me after it went below the 12.25 limit. I figure I can try the water droplet theory and still send it in if it doesn't work.

It is 'soaking' right now.

[maughanm]

I've known several people to use your theory with good luck....I have been so much more careful since I dented mine the first time and I have kept it off the floor and out of the hands of borrowers.....never again. Good luck and let us know how it turns out....mike

[9balldiva]

Maybe Neil can weigh in on this.

Lucky for me, I see Neil on a regular basis...and we are friends (right?), so I just let him make adjustments to my Predator!!! Of course, I may have to shuck out *some* bucks, but well worth it for a job done right!!

[Neil Fujiwara]

:)

[audiopro]

Neil, can I be your friend too?? :-D

[9balldiva]

Neil, can I be your friend too?? :-D

LOL...you'd have to move to FL

[DZ314]

He is in Orlando, FL. ;)

[9balldiva]

He is in Orlando, FL. ;)

Oh yeah...I am a very forgetful person!

Let me rephrase...you'd have to move to jacksonville

[audiopro]

lol... Well, I would wanna be your friend too then if I had to move to jax.. :twisted:

[9balldiva]

lol... Well, I would wanna be your friend too then if I had to move to jax.. :twisted:

hey...what person can't use more friends?? C'mon up/over

[DZ314]

Hell, let's all move to Jax! :lol: One big happy pool crazy family! :lol:

[audiopro]

Now there's a plan. But we have a great happy family here in Orlando at Clicks.. Everyone there is a regular and with the exception of maybe 2 or 3 people, everyone is great!!

Only one Predator user there, so maybe ya'll can come over and do some marketing... I think Neil would be happy to throw in a free cue to all who came down to help the cause.. lol

[DZ314]

Neil, come on ol' buddy ol' pal! :D

[audiopro]

I'd buy beer for all who came... :)

Probably even some shots too...

[9balldiva]

I'd buy beer for all who came... :)

Probably even some shots too...

Well, you can count me in!!!! :wink:

[audiopro]

I'll visit your bar if you'll visit mine..

lol, show me yours if I show mine type thing?? :twisted:

[DZ314]

Dang, now my boss is going to have a fit when I tell him I need my vacation like NOW! :lol:

[audiopro]

Hey man, you have worked long and hard there for those days!!!

I'll even throw in free pool for anyone on my table.. :)

<snickering> I don't pay for table time anyways.. ha ha

[9balldiva]

Dang, now my boss is going to have a fit when I tell him I need my vacation like NOW! :lol:

My vacation days go into effect like next week. I plan to take a 4 day weekend after my summer semester is over in June...maybe the Mr. and I will head to orlando...Neil you up for the ride...COF???

[audiopro]

Hope ya all like partying. We do a good bit of that...

Pics for the new girl: http://www.sitepros.net/clicks

[DZ314]

I will do my best to arrange it.

[9balldiva]

Is there any action at Click's??

[audiopro]

Money games not really.. Playing for shots, you betcha!!!

[9balldiva]

My other half will want some action if we go down for the pool halls...I reckon if we also bring Neil along...we can just amke it a fun weekend!!

[DZ314]

That would be terriffic!! I have heard of the god like stroke of Neil's, I would love to actually watch him play in person.

[9balldiva]

LMAO...it is a nice stroke, but shhhh...

[StB]

I'd buy beer for all who came... :)

Probably even some shots too...

I'll be on my way shortly!

[Neil Fujiwara]

Hey Hey Hey, what's going on here? Turn my back for a second and now we have plans to go to Orlando and drink shots at Clicks?

Sounds good, just let me know when you guys want to go. There isn't much planned in June, so I am pretty available.

[audiopro]

StB, you are in Tampa now right? This could actually be a possibility eh.. :)

[sonnic]

but what about me.... im all the way up in Wisconsin :oops:

[skor]

but what about me.... im all the way up in Wisconsin :oops:

well it's up to perspective, from here Wisconsin is not that far from Florida, at least it's the same country 8O

[Neil Fujiwara]

I was in Tampa for the Florida Pro event, damn there are nice looking women there.

[DZ314]

There sure are, I vacationed in Tampa 3 years ago. Wow is all I can say. :D

[DZ314]

but what about me.... im all the way up in Wisconsin :oops:
Hey, I am way up in Meeechigan. haha. Hopefully I am going to be able to get my vacation time in to go to Florida and meet up with everyone down there and shoot some pool!

[Neil Fujiwara]

Eventually I will be in Michigan to visit Seyberts and do a training up there. When that happens I will be sure to post so that we can all rendezvous and have a blast.

[sonnic]

dammit i want to live in flordia

[DZ314]

Eventually I will be in Michigan to visit Seyberts and do a training up there. When that happens I will be sure to post so that we can all rendezvous and have a blast.
Hey now that would be terriffic!!! I look forward to it! 8)

[DZ314]

dammit i want to live in flordia

Don't we all?? :? :P

[audiopro]

I have found there are great looking women in most states if you go to the right places. However there is an abundance of them here in FL, and Tampa being the party area in FL because of the later alcohol cutoff, it is nice...

I was born in Ohio, been here since I was 8, although I spent a year in Maryland a few years back when a bank was converting software platforms. Hated it... Never again will I leave FL unless it is for a house in the mountains in the middle of no where in the Carolinas!!

[maughanm]

If there is beer and shots on the house here....you might have to add my name.....just a short bike ride away for me....well....10 -12 hours or so....a good days ride....would be ready for a cold one...mike

[audiopro]

Anyone from this board who drops by would be good to go in the beverage department. :)

[DZ314]

Anyone from this board who drops by would be good to go in the beverage department. :)
That's what we like to hear! Free drinks, pool, good friends, and hotties.... like a dream come true! :lol:

[maughanm]

Just give me 2 days advance notice....got a sister in Jacksonville and buds all down in the Daytona/St. Augustine area..... :lol: mike

[audiopro]

ha ha, and if you're brave you can visit on a Tuesday and sing Karaoke.. However don't expect me to do any singing!!! Last time at the end of my song I received much applause.. Mainly because, it was the END of my song. :)

[Neil Fujiwara]

Daytona is really nice, I don't know about Jacksonville though, it's kind of boring here.

[audiopro]

I live in Deltona, which is 20 minutes away from Daytona. But even better is Cocoa Beach. MUCH more eye candy and... You can drink on the beach!!! Yeah baby!!!

[DZ314]

I wouldn't be doing any Karaoke so I would not try to convince anyone else to. ;)

[DZ314]

I live in Deltona, which is 20 minutes away from Daytona. But even better is Cocoa Beach. MUCH more eye candy and... You can drink on the beach!!! Yeah baby!!!
Whoa, drink on the beach even! Kick arse! 8)

[Neil Fujiwara]

That isn't too far from here, anything going on there soon?

Maybe it's time for a roadtrip soon ;)

[DZ314]

Roadtrip, did someone say roadtrip? :D

[maughanm]

Never been up north....Michigan would be a nice ride also....get to meet the good folks at Seyberts...and maybe get a bargain or two....It would take 2 days of school for me to learn to interpret the northern accent ...or vise versa.....let's party! 8)

[Neil Fujiwara]

I was in Melbourne a couple of weeks ago, Tampa last weekend, might as well keep it up.

Any festivals or parties this weekend down there? Is there someplace good to stay that is reasonably priced?

[9balldiva]

Daytona is really nice, I don't know about Jacksonville though, it's kind of boring here.

Very true. Jacksonville is only fun for about the first 3 months after you come here, then it's all the same things over and over. We some alright clubs around here...and some good pool halls...and I guess being on a pool forum that's all you need, huh?

Daytona is a blast, been there, and I would do it again over and over!! So, now we are planning trips to Michigan too???!!???

[skor]

I live in Deltona, which is 20 minutes away from Daytona. But even better is Cocoa Beach. MUCH more eye candy and... You can drink on the beach!!! Yeah baby!!!

well we can drink here anywhere, beach, street, bars and clubs 24 hours aday 7 days a week (I can even have a cold one right here at work, we have our own little pub ) :)

[DZ314]

Daytona is really nice, I don't know about Jacksonville though, it's kind of boring here.

Very true. Jacksonville is only fun for about the first 3 months after you come here, then it's all the same things over and over. We some alright clubs around here...and some good pool halls...and I guess being on a pool forum that's all you need, huh?

Daytona is a blast, been there, and I would do it again over and over!! So, now we are planning trips to Michigan too???!!???
Yes, the southerners need to get together up here to hang out with the Seybert's crew and yours truly! I am in the neighborhood as well! :wink:

[audiopro]

Daytona has a host of Hotels on the beach that are decent. Thing is you try not to spend to much time in the hotel.. Gotta get out and have some fun!!

If we are serious maybe we could organize something..??

[9balldiva]

Daytona has a host of Hotels on the beach that are decent. Thing is you try not to spend to much time in the hotel.. Gotta get out and have some fun!!

If we are serious maybe we could organize something..??

Sounds like this could be promising!!

[Neil Fujiwara]

I am down for it.

Just got the carb tuned on the Rx-7, so I am in a good mood. Can't wait to drive it!!

[audiopro]

Sweet!!! Rotary's are fun!! Buddy of mine will spin the tires on 4 gears! Fun little cars..

[maughanm]

If you do it in June...I'm game for most anywhere...I love the spur of the moment trips....takes me about 5 minutes to pack...and a couple of days to get there..mike

[maughanm]

By the way Neil, I owe you a beer from a couple of months ago! :lol:

[Neil Fujiwara]

Hopefully you didn't open it yet, it would be stale by now!!

[skor]

LMAO

[9balldiva]

I'm pretty sure you owe me a beer too, remember from that one tiem at that one place??!!

[Neil Fujiwara]

It's something like: I still owe you from the thing from the guy at the place.

I was watching it last night, that movie is great.

[9balldiva]

It's something like: I still owe you from the thing from the guy at the place.

I was watching it last night, that movie is great.

Watching what...??? I wasn't quoting, I was just making a statement!

[Neil Fujiwara]

Oh, I thought you were quoting that line that Elliott Gould said in Ocean's Eleven.

[9balldiva]

Oh, I thought you were quoting that line that Elliott Gould said in Ocean's Eleven.

Same idea!! I forgot about that...hey I am designing our shirts right now. I am making them this weekend. The name of our team is "Pull My Finger"...imagine that with Mike Pallone!! HA

[audiopro]

Our team name sucks right now.. Pocket #r's... How el lamo is that!?!

Previous team names:
Who's Q Is It (Won Cities with that team, came down to my last shot)
Felt Munchers
Ocho Locos

[9balldiva]

okay, how do i post a picture of the design...it's a word document!???[/img]

[audiopro]

Do a print screen of the word doc, open up a graphics editor and paste it, save it, upload... :)

Thats one way anyways...

[9balldiva]

Do a print screen of the word doc, open up a graphics editor and paste it, save it, upload... :)

Thats one way anyways...

didn't work...any other ideas. I know what you are talking about, it just isn't working!!!

[audiopro]

You can send me the doc file, I can do it for ya? email my first name, which is greg, with the domain of sitepros.net appended... :)

[9balldiva]

Do a print screen of the word doc, open up a graphics editor and paste it, save it, upload... :)

Thats one way anyways...

didn't work...any other ideas. I know what you are talking about, it just isn't working!!!

okay I think I got it to work...but now where is the upload...I'm really not dumb with this stuff, I've done it a hundred times...!!!

[audiopro]

You will need to have a hosting server of some sort, there are some freebies.. Or I could setup a generic one for everyone here to use...??

[skor]

please do, that will make life a lot easier :)

[9balldiva]

You will need to have a hosting server of some sort, there are some freebies.. Or I could setup a generic one for everyone here to use...??

how about I just email it to you...DONE!! LOL

[audiopro]

[9balldiva]

thanks greg!! Note: The grey around the finger will be all white after I play with it in publisher...on white t-shirts!!!

I don't know how many people have come up to me and asked me to pull their finger since this tournament started!! HA...it's pretty funny!

[audiopro]

Your competition is gonna be on the ground laughing when they see these!!!! That is really great!!

[9balldiva]

GOOD!! Then we'll be sure to win...if they don't start the match by 15 minutes after it's time...it's an automatic forfeit!! LOL

[DZ314]

Sounds like a winning strategy to me! :lol:

[9balldiva]

Sounds like a winning strategy to me! :lol:

...and it's not cheating...it's au naturale

[DZ314]

au naturale..... 8O

Yeah, it is a legit tactic!

[Neil Fujiwara]

Do you guys get together before your matches and eat refried beans or something? That's what I would do. ;)

[9balldiva]

Do you guys get together before your matches and eat refried beans or something? That's what I would do. ;)

LMAO...once again Neil, you crack me up!!!

[audiopro]

Make sure ya have super glue!

[9balldiva]

Make sure ya have super glue!

:lol: ...I'm dyin' here!

[Neil Fujiwara]

What are you doing tonight Diva?

[9balldiva]

What are you doing tonight Diva?

We'll (minus Mike) be at Solids and Stripes for league. 9-ball...

[Neil Fujiwara]

Oooh, maybe I will have to come out to see you.

[9balldiva]

Guess you found something else to do...

[Neil Fujiwara]

I text messaged you, but never got a response. I am not going to drive all that way if you aren't there.

[9balldiva]

Oh, is that where it came from!!! I don't ever get TM's from people. The only text messeges that I have ever gotten are from Fox News...with FNC Alerts. Plus, I can't send, I can only receive them!! Sorry...I'll be at Park tonight anyhow!!

[Neil Fujiwara]

Oh, okay.

[9balldiva]

You should have seen me playing last night though...holy cow, it was like a whole other person. You know Tony C, right...he plays in the Wed. Tourney just about every week. That's who I played...I have just been on this streak...this really good playing streak!! My english is working well and all!!

[Neil Fujiwara]

Keep it up, take it off!!

[skor]

take it off ????

[audiopro]

Her shirt!?!?! Neil, I never would have expected that from you!!!

:twisted:

[Neil Fujiwara]

Take the tournament off.

[skor]

:)

[Neil Fujiwara]

You would if you saw her.

[audiopro]

lol, nice reply!!!

Maybe I will if we can actually all meet up sometime..

[9balldiva]

You all obviously don't know Neil...

...and again Neil, thanks! I'll hang around this place, I get compliments daily!!

[9balldiva]

It wasn't tournament play last night...it was just regular old league...we play at Billiard Connection for the tournament. Saturday at 2...will you even be awake yet Neil??

[Neil Fujiwara]

I am awake at 2 on Saturdays, just not fully functional.

It is easier to compliment you here Christy, I don't have to worry so much about who hears me.

[audiopro]

I am awake at 2 on Saturdays, just not fully functional.

I can relate with that!

[9balldiva]

I hear that. Had we lost our tournament match on Wednesday, we would have been playing at 10:00 am on Saturday!! I would have been a zombie!!

I understand Neil...well considering that Mike is rarely right next to me at Park, you shouldn't worry! He takes stuff like that as a compliment himself...not to say that you should be more vocal about it by any means, but that stuff doesn't get to him...

[Neil Fujiwara]

I try to be respectful of you guys as a couple, but damn, sometimes I can't help myself. ;)

[9balldiva]

LOL...that's nice of you! Sometimes I wonder if I want to be in this relationship...not because I don't love him, because I do! More along the lines of because (and I am not trying to be conceited at all) allot of guys hit on me, plus I hang out with allot of guys. Mike is always making smart ass remarks, but when he says them over and over, I begin to wonder if he really thinks what he's saying!!??

[Neil Fujiwara]

Mike is a nice guy with a good heart. I don't agree with how he treats you sometimes, but that is not my place.

And forget about the remarks he makes, they are horrible.

[audiopro]

You work at a bar right? Compliments and guys hitting on you are typical. I have dated a few bartender/waitresses at Clicks in my time. And if you as a guy are going to date someone like that, you have to be pretty comfty yourself. There is no reason to take it in a bad way, or let it bother you at all... Just eat, drink and be merry.. :)

[9balldiva]

It's not that it bothers him with me working there. For instance, I have LOTS of guy friends, and many times they will come up to the pool hall and shoot with me. Mike will make a comment about "oh, is that your new boyfriend"...stupid smart ass stuff like that. When he says it though he makes sure to say he's kidding, but after so MANY times of saying it...it just gets old!! Does that make sense??

[audiopro]

You should tell him. :)

[Neil Fujiwara]

He is immature in that sense, that is just his personality. There has to be something behind it otherwise he wouldn't say stuff like that all the time.

Not saying that you are provoking it, but that he has something deep rooted that he feels he needs to express all the time.

[audiopro]

How old are you two, if I may ask?

[9balldiva]

Mike is a nice guy with a good heart. I don't agree with how he treats you sometimes, but that is not my place.

And forget about the remarks he makes, they are horrible.

Sometimes, I don't like the way I'm treated either, but other times...it's totally different! Part of me wants to say "see you later" but the other part says "why would you leave"...recently I have been doing my own thing on the weekends and letting him go do whatever. I have just gotten to the point where I want to hang out with MY friends...because as usual I neglect them when I first get into a relationship.

Stoney called me the other night to ask about the big $50 tournament. Well, he was also telling me about what Morty was doing now...well, naturally I told Mike about Morty...automatically, Mike says, "Pool players are calling my girlfriends phone and not mine" I don't know if it is that he not used to having a girlfriend that everyone else gets along with too????!!! :?

[9balldiva]

Mike is 33, and I am 20

[9balldiva]

this discussion goes no further than this board...Neil!

[audiopro]

Wow, that's a bit of an age difference. Not the kind of behaviour though I would expect from someone who is 33 though. But being that you are so young, that could have something to do with how he decides to treat you, and how he feels about the things that go on.

Best advice I can give ya, is dont concentrate to much on it. Just enjoy yourself and do what makes ya happy at the time, while still being somewhat prudent.

[audiopro]

Yeah, lets not invite Mike to this board, and hope he doesn't happen upon it himself. lol

[Neil Fujiwara]

Pay attention to your friends of course, they are going to be around long after Mike is gone.

If they talk to you at the pool hall, then they are going to call you on the phone, he has to accept that.

What's Morty doing these days?

[Neil Fujiwara]

Of course Christy. Shoot me an email at neil@predatorcuesdotcom if you want to talk about this more privately.

[audiopro]

Neil, you should edit that post so it doesn't have your email address in a sendable format. Spammers spider groups like this for them.

Try something like, greg and append @sitepros.net that way if confuses automatic scavenging.

[Neil Fujiwara]

Is that better?

Thanks for the tip.

[9balldiva]

Mike wouldn't get on the boards. The only computer he has access to is my laptop...and he spends so much time at the pool hall, he would dare take time to browse the boards!!

I do try to pay attention to them. I can't tell you how many friends I have lost because I started dating someone...eventually those friends just drifted away. I made new friends through whomever I was dating...then you break up with the guy, and the friends too!

I know there's truth behind his commentary, but I try to ignore it mostly. One time saying something is one thing, but once a day is another!

[9balldiva]

Morty is dealing cards in St Petersburg at the dogtracks. Apparently he's making some pretty good money...???

[audiopro]

Is that better?

Thanks for the tip.

;)

[audiopro]

I have been fortunate to not lose any friends because of dating. But that is because they have been really good friends and weathered my ignorance and ended up being there for me when I came to realize the error of my ways.

It is only in the past few years that I have found a good balance between dating and balancing friendships. I dont think it is something you can be told you have to do, rather you just develop the ability over time.

[Neil Fujiwara]

Morty is a nice guy, glad to see he is finally getting on his feet and off the road.

Life is too short to put up with that kind of stuff.

[9balldiva]

I have been fortunate to not lose any friends because of dating. But that is because they have been really good friends and weathered my ignorance and ended up being there for me when I came to realize the error of my ways.

It is only in the past few years that I have found a good balance between dating and balancing friendships. I dont think it is something you can be told you have to do, rather you just develop the ability over time.

Well said! I think it's that initial start of dating...when you just want to be together all the time, you know? So, you forget what else you're supposed to do!

[9balldiva]

Morty is a nice guy, glad to see he is finally getting on his feet and off the road.

Life is too short to put up with that kind of stuff.

I guess, but He will always have some issues...not to be discussed so openly (catch my drift)...

Check your email

[Neil Fujiwara]

Checked and responded.

[audiopro]

Yeah, and there is nothing wrong with spending time together if that is what you want to do. Something that may help if you are not already conditioned to do it is to write yourself reminders or commit to other plans a couple times a week...

[audiopro]

I guess, but He will always have some issues...not to be discussed so openly (catch my drift)...

Check your email

lol... I think I know some people with similiar issues.. :)

[9balldiva]

I guess, but He will always have some issues...not to be discussed so openly (catch my drift)...

Check your email

lol... I think I know some people with similiar issues.. :)

Unfortunately, I think we all know those kind of people!

[Neil Fujiwara]

There is at least one in every pool hall.

[audiopro]

Only one!?!? Must only be a couple tables there.. :-P

[9balldiva]

Only one!?!? Must only be a couple tables there.. :-P

LMAO...exactly what I was thinkin'...I know theres way more than one in ours!!

[audiopro]

I never realized so many people do umm... "Things".... Until I started hanging out in a pool hall..

[Neil Fujiwara]

That's where they all seem to congregate.

[DZ314]

Which is yet another reason why pool players get a bad rap, people assume all pool players are either like that or associate with people like that. It is an unfortunate truth.

[audiopro]

That is somewhat true. I try to convinve myself that where I shoot is a pool hall first, and a bar second. Well that wish may apply for me, but not everyone else. When it comes down to it, there money is made in alcohol sales, not table time.

It is easy to be brought down in that environment. All the ladies I know who work there have the worst self esteem, even though many of you have seen pics and know they are beautiful. They all drink too much and that brings ya down.

You're right it is an unfortunate truth that we get associated with that. But even worse is the truth of how things really are there. A good friend of mine who is getting married this weekend actually, taught me to seperate pool and some of the people there. I am close friends with all the staff and we all hang out together all the time. But you have to keep what is talked about to yourself, and not get involved in matters not related directly to you. Otherwise you open a can of worms and drama gets started.

[DZ314]

Exactly, and no normal person wants to get mixed up into the middle of a can of worms. :D

[Neil Fujiwara]

As the cue ball turns.

[audiopro]

LOL, we got our Soap Operah name!! Good one Neil...

Fact is anywhere you go that has regulars will have drama. I used to speed skate, and believe me there was drama there. In time we learn to steer clear of the dangers that come along with being friends with EVERYONE... There is a management process to it, and the most important part is being able to keep your mouth closed about some things even though you want to share, if only to make conversation.

It's not that the people are bad. We all have issues, and when they get mixed up with 30 other peoples issues, and then scattered around, it goes bad. Every single person I know at Clicks is an authentic and great person. They have all helped me when I needed it, and vice versa. It's just sometimes people dont realize the things they say and do publicly can effect others. Well they may realize it, but not know the extent.

[maughanm]

I played golf for about 15 years or so...and the one thing I liked about it was that you never met jerks on the golf course....Now, I'm 100% back in pool....but I must say....that I hardly ever go to a pool hall that there is not some jerk or asshole in there...I think it is better than it used to be back when I was younger...but still a problem....Tournaments I go to where there are 20 - 25 players...there is at least 3 assholes in the crowd.
Pool still keeps that bad rep, because of these few who show their arses. I had to sneak into pool rooms when I was a teenager because it was so rough.....I will say...it is better now than it was then........mike

[Neil Fujiwara]

Man, the pool hall I used to work for had armed guards on weekends. There was a slight gang problem ;)

[audiopro]

We don't really have any hardcore assholes. We have one newbie to our PH who is a bit cocky, and I dont like that at all. But I dont think he will last long because that type of person just doesn't go well with our atmosphere.

The great thing about Clicks is the awesome staff. They do not tolerate a lot of crap that is typical in other pool halls. And they will kick you out and ask you not come back again. It really is a pretty clean place.

[audiopro]

Yeah Neil I know how that goes. I used to be a bouncer at a skating rink... lol... How bad is that!!!! We had 6 of us whose only job was to toss out the trouble makers.

Ever seen Roadhouse? I learned real quick to use Patricks POS car tachnique. If you have a nice car, buy a beat up ole POS and drive it there instead... :)

[Neil Fujiwara]

I would never imagine that a skating rink would have that much trouble.

[audiopro]

We had some pretty bad gang activity too. Was not in the bad part of town, but right outside. They were little kiddie gangs, but they were violent. Guns and knives we found almost nightly. On some occasions the "Duke Boys" Orange County's gang unit, would make visits and arrest droves of people.

The trouble was pretty transparent however to most people, as we did a pretty efficient job at getting thigs taken care of.

[9balldiva]

As the cue ball turns.

...and again, all cracked up!!

Don't worry audio, I have my glue!!

[9balldiva]

We had some pretty bad gang activity too. Was not in the bad part of town, but right outside. They were little kiddie gangs, but they were violent. Guns and knives we found almost nightly. On some occasions the "Duke Boys" Orange County's gang unit, would make visits and arrest droves of people.

The trouble was pretty transparent however to most people, as we did a pretty efficient job at getting thigs taken care of.

I can see that.

Neil there used to be a roller skating rink where 8 seconds was (the one that just closed)...I lived in the neighborhood right next to that, and there were gangs everywhere...I hung out with all of them, and they weren't that bad, but there were other who were!! You know.

[Neil Fujiwara]

Always some bad seeds out there, I am sure you corrupted several of them. ;)

[audiopro]

We have an :08 over here in Orlando as well, although ours is still open. Actually I believe my sisters girlfriend will be competing in the Country Idol state contest there soon...