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[guest]

I have tried several Sneaky Pete Predator cues. They don't do nothing for me on and off the pool table. When on the table it DOES NOT give me the feel that certain Lucasi cues give me. Trust me go with a LUCASI cue and you won't be sorry!

From one guest to another......... i agree with you Predators just don't do it for me. but i am sure there are fools out there buy into that kind of thing. Not say they are bad cues, just seems too much of a marketing scheme to me.

I think lucasi cues are good for the money and they get the job done as well as any Predator cue.

There is a sucker born every minute!!!

regards,
other guest

[skor]

Thank you for sharing this information with us,
basicly what you are saying is that half of the pros out there don't know what they are doing!!!
Maybe you should start your own pool school for the pros.
A Predator cue is not an auto-pilot cue, it should not do anything for you, You need to understand it's features and you need to know/learn how to use it to benefit the advantages that it offer.

[CJK]

If you've truly played with both cues, you will know that there is a tremendous difference, and it tends to favor the Predator rather strongly. Before owning a Predator, I had two different Lucasi cues, a 2004 and a 2010. Nice looking cues, and whatever they seal the shafts with, it keeps them feeling smooth with little or no work for quite a while. They shoot decent as well. However, the control I have with the Predator outshines Lucasi by a long shot. When I got rid of the 2004, I sold it to a teammate. I have shot with it since buying my Predator, and while it is all right, the feel, feedback and accuracy of the Predator are superior.

Had I trusted in your anonymity and bought a Lucasi now, I would be sorely disappointed. By the way, my teammate that has the Lucasi has shot with my Predator, and thinks it's a superior cue. If he can find a Predator shaft at a price he's willing to pay, he's switching.

[parrothead]

I think that a lot of people who play with predator cues would agree that Predator shafts do not "feel" as good as a solid one piece maple shaft. The thing is that they do have excellent deflection properties as very good control. So if you can adjust to the way they feel then they are great shafts and if you can't, well learn to shoot with what ever cue feels good to you. I can't say that I have enough time playing with a predator to make a really accurate judgement, but I do think they are a quality product that has some real advantages, performance wise over a lot of production cue shafts.

[dags_lax]

basicly what you are saying is that half of the pros out there don't know what they are doing

I am willing to bet that all of the pros know what they are doing. Or at the very least know more about what they are doing than the members of this forum know about what they are doing.

I am not a Predator fan. I have a 314 shaft for my Schon and also for one of my Jacksons. I have also owned a Predator cue. I am not saying that Predator is not a good product. It is. It is just not the product for me. I have friends that use their products and are very pleased with them. I also know a few folks that didn't care for their product.

Based on my experience I am not surprised that half of the pros choose to use some thing other than a Predator. There are also people whose opinions I respect prefer the Predator shaft. Therefore I am not surprised that half the pros choose to use Predator products.

I don't take much stock in what other people (strangers or casual acquaintances) promote, endorse, or use. That goes for everything including cues and beer. What I do take stock in is a close friend telling me, when I am looking to buy a lawnmower, that he bought one last year and wishes he the Toro instead of a Lawn Boy.

When Predator can say that 90% of all pros that are not contractually prohibited, use their product and that they pay retail just like you and I, that I would consider significant. But when it comes to the claim that 50% of the pros use Predators, to me that is not that striking of an endorsement. Especially when Predator provides their product to the pros for free or at a discount.

[sonnic]

very true dags, I agree to some extent but i guess i bought into the predator idea of having a supierior shaft. I have heard nothing good about the butt end of the predator cues. They are made by a second rate company i hear. I have a predator shaft and am reasonably happy with it. Does it make me a better player? id say no way, maybe the thought of me having the best shaft made gives me an added sense of confidence (which helps) but doesn't make me better.

So i think the predator shafts are very good and the butts are average. So i would never buy a predator cue for that price and style. I would much rather buy a nice Schon and maybe add a 314 shaft to it down the line. that is my 2 cents

From one guest to another......... i agree with you Predators just don't do it for me. but i am sure there are fools out there buy into that kind of thing. Not say they are bad cues, just seems too much of a marketing scheme to me.

I think lucasi cues are good for the money and they get the job done as well as any Predator cue.

There is a sucker born every minute!!!

regards,
other guest

Anytime you want to play... Just let me know!!!!

[dags_lax]

I'm sorry if I gave any one the impression that the Predator shaft is not a good shaft. It's a fine product. It's not that I shoot bad with a Predator. I think I my game is just a little better with my Schon cue and shaft.

Just as tennis players use different rackets and strings, pool players use different cues, shafts and tips. Irrespective of a manufacturers claims and testing, the best product is the product that works best for the individual.

[audiopro]

Or the product you get paid the most to use at the time.. ;)

[dags_lax]

Or that doesn't cost you anything.

FREE BEER IS THE BEST BEER!!!!!

[DZ314]

Beer for free is twice as sweet as beer purchased. :lol:

[skor]

I have heard nothing good about the butt end of the predator cues. They are made by a second rate company i hear.

Falcon cues are not second rate they are very good production cues, just ask Karen Corr and Nick Varner, they both play with them.
Varner got a new Falcon (ebony and ivory) less the year ago and he says that it play great.

[sonnic]

can anyone else second that?? Im not saying falcon is bad i just heard it was a lower end company.

Like viking isn't as good as Schon... Lucasi isn't as good as predator.

[audiopro]

They are not junk, but in my opinion they are not worth what Predator charges for them either. Second rate is a relative thing. Falcons are on par with Viking and McDermott and the like. But they dont hold a candle to a Schon or a custom cue, etc.

Here is something I just saw on another forum. I think some of you guys may find entertainting.


She says that because the cue is 8 years old, that it is considered normal wear and tear - that if it had only been 2 or 3 years old, then it would have been covered under their "lifetime" warranty.

I guess lifetime warranty does not me lifetime warranty after all!

here is the url to the full post: http://www.azbilliards.com/vbulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=4782

[audiopro]

Not sure what this is in reference to, as I cannot get to the azbilliards site for some reason right now (quirky Internet conn). But a lot of manufacturers specify lifetime warranty as The Expected Lifetime of the product. Say you buy some speakers with a lifetime waranty, well they are only expected to live for 3 years. So that is the lifetime. They mean the products lifetime, not your lifetime.. ha ha, lame little trick!

[DZ314]

Yeah, it is misleading at least. I guess you need to read the fine print!

[CJK]

All right, "Guest." I wasn't convinced in your other 100 anonymous posts where you bashed Predator, but your link to a post on another forum by an unidentifiable person who has an obvious bitch but isn't prepared to deal with it as a reasonable consumer has finally done it. I'm going to sell my Predator and extra shaft, and go buy another Lucasi, a cue made in China without any warranty whatsoever. Never mind that the Lucasi plays like crap by comparison; my own experience is not enough to sway me any more. You have converted me!

Not.