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Oberyn Martell
04-13-2002, 09:06 PM
I was just trying to get a consensus at to which one generally hits better schon or meucci.

PrimeTime
04-13-2002, 11:10 PM
Oberyn, I think this is subjective by individual. The old Joss cue I sold years ago hit exceptionally well. My new Pechauer hits just about the same but the Pechauer with my Predator shaft hits more accurately particularly on long shots. Both variations hit as well as any Schon I've hit with......but I don't think you'll go wrong with either. Pechauer has better craftmanship than the Schon IMO.

Meuccis have a soft hit but who wants to always worry about having the Red Dot on top?

It all depends on you and what feels best for you. I know good players who use very inexpensive cues but I know better ones who own extremely expensive cues.

Try them all if you can......ask a few players you know :mrgreen: to hit a couple of shots with his cue but do so with utmost respect for his cue.......no hard draws......no breaking......no dings, etc.

SUPERIOR-D
04-18-2002, 02:06 AM
Prime Time, I agree with you about the Pechauer, it is a fine cue. To compare a Meucci to a Schon or any cue above its quality is absurd. Yes I have had some very good hitting Meucci cues, but the best I have shot with is a Thomas Wayne original. Although I do own a Schon one of a kind.

03-23-2004, 11:26 AM
Hum....which hits better:

Schon or a limp piece of speghetti?

I'm going with Schon. IMO Muecci are horrible. There are few guys that like them. They are really REALLY wippy, so you can get a lot of spin with them...but that's the only good thing I can say.

I personally will play with a crooked house cue before I'd play with a Meucci.

Either Schon or Predator are the best production cues in the world. No other cues even come close. Schon and Predator are better than some (I say some, because I've tried some) custom cues as well.

audiopro
03-23-2004, 11:50 AM
In many ways a "Better Hit" is subjective... But there are probably a hundred arguable points that make up a "Better Hitting" cue.. But let me say this about that.. I sometimes play with a 15 year old, at least, Buddy Hall Meucci. It has an Ivory Joint, and the balance point is not the typical few inches from where the wrap starts. It is right at the point the wrap starts. And I have yet to love the hit of another cue more. That said, I would have to say you would have to try them yourself and choose what ya like..

KGeeEd
03-24-2004, 09:45 AM
I like the Schon. This was the first cue that I have ever owned. I bought it 20 years ago. The dealer also was selling some Joss West cues. He told me that in his opinion the Schon was about equal. I paid $110 for the Schon and the Joss was $550. Looking back I wish that I would have bought the Joss. They have really increase in value. (I am talking about a Billy Stroud Joss, not the production Joss East).

My next cue was a Meucci. It was a Meucci "second". I bought it to use as a sneaky pete/break cue. It did not serve as either. The butt warped and the shaft is too wimpy. Only paid $60.00 for it.

Other than that you are not comparing apples to apples. One has a metal joint the other plastic.

The ferrules are different. The Schon is a screwed and glued ferrule and the Meucci is glued and doweled.

One puts a finish over the wrap?

Schon to me is the better of the two.

sonnic
03-25-2004, 01:44 PM
I like Schon but are they as good as predator? What about the shaft? I have heard that the schon shafts are very nice but are they as good as predator? Why buy a schon cue if you were planning on a 314 or Z shaft when you can get it as an option on a predator cue...

DZ314
03-25-2004, 01:47 PM
Maybe the Schon butt is better somehow? :lol: I guess the name game may play a part as well.

sonnic
03-25-2004, 01:52 PM
im very sure of that. I always thought that if you put a 314 or Z on any cue it will play at a higher level. so if you put it on a schon would it make the Schon better? Maybe im just getting wrapped up in the hype of the predator shaft. I mean really how much better could it really be? I understand that predator ran all these experiments and came to a scientific conclusion but dont you think that schon would of done that as well??? What makes the predator 314 so superior? I realize they have the spliced shaft witch could make a big difference and might but schon doesn't do that for a reason is all im saying...

sonnic
03-25-2004, 01:56 PM
So say you were going to buy a new cue and you wanted either a Schon or Predator cue Which one would you pick? and if you picked the Schon would you add a predator shaft??? if so why not just buy the predator cue with the shaft????

DZ314
03-25-2004, 02:01 PM
If I bought a Schon I would stay with the Schon shaft. From what other members have said it is a fine shaft. I guess I will have to one day own a Schon and have a Predator shaft to be able to come to any concrete conclusions as to which I prefer.

skor
03-25-2004, 02:04 PM
why buy a $3000 custom cue and put a predator shaft on it ?
well maybe the butt looks nicer, has nice art work different balance, but you still want the best shaft.

don't forget that with pool cues there's a lot of showing off and not just playability :)

DZ314
03-25-2004, 02:09 PM
So are you saying that you would or would not put a Predator shaft on a high end cue?

skor
03-25-2004, 02:54 PM
I would put a 314 shaft on any cue I will ever own !!!!!!!!!

DZ314
03-25-2004, 02:56 PM
Alright, so I guess you are convinced of their superiority. :P

skor
03-25-2004, 02:58 PM
I've playing with one for six years, along this time I've tried many cues (of other people) and none performed as good

DZ314
03-25-2004, 03:08 PM
So you have never tried say, a Schon cue, for any length of time? Just a few games or what?

sonnic
03-25-2004, 03:29 PM
then are you saying you would perfer schon to predator skor? why or why not?

dags_lax
03-25-2004, 04:42 PM
I've been using a Schon as my daily playing cue for about ten years now. I did try a 314 shaft and used it exclusively for one year, so I have given the 314 a fair shake. I didn't play as well with the 314 as I did with the Schon shaft. Predator may claim less deflection and more spin I guess I have subconsciously been able to adjust for whatever deflection I get and I can generate all the spin I need with my Schon shaft. My 314 shaft is my second shaft in the case and will only be used in the event of an emergency. I also have a 314 shaft for my Jackson. Same story.

I don't know any other way to describe it but I have a confidence in the way my Schon hits that I never had when I had with the Predator shaft on it.

skor
03-25-2004, 04:58 PM
1. I have developed a few drills to check how a cue/shaft feels and work for me, I'm sure what I like best at a shaft won't be for others.
2. I liked the hit and feel of the predator from the second I hit the first ball.
3. I like the metal joint better then the other joints, so in this case the butt of the cue does not realy changes how the cue hit, only the feel dew to weight and balance.
4. I appreciate fine art work on the but of the cue but right now playability is more important to me so a plain butt is just fine, maybe one day when I'll have the money for it I'll start collecting cues