View Full Version : Should I buy this Cue
sonnic
04-02-2004, 12:43 AM
I was wondering what everyone thought of this deal...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3669845907&category=21212&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBBI%3AIT&rd=1
Take a look i want a Schon bad but dont want to pay over 500 if i dont have too. Used is fine for me. Is this a good deal? How old is this cue? Opinions anyone?
Thanks,
Sonnic
sonnic
04-02-2004, 12:44 AM
or this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3669173502&category=21212
sonnic
04-02-2004, 12:48 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3668898450&category=21212
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3669964095&category=21212
Sorry to post all this but i think i might have my future cue in one of these links. So please let me know which one you like the best for the money...
Thanks again,
Sonnic
I would not pay $400 for a used production cue even if it's a schon,
for that kind of cash, you can get a new Predator 3K1 for $420 right here at seyberts, It will play about the same like any schon with a 314 shaft, but most important, you know who you are getting it from, it's new and if there is any problems, I'm sure that the people of seyberts will give you a great service.
Just my thoughts
I have to disagree with skor as I think the schon is a vastly superior cue.
If you want you can always put a predator shaft on it later.
audiopro
04-02-2004, 09:00 AM
I personally would not shell out that money on a used cue, unless I got to handle the it. I would want to be able to inspect closely for dings and imperfections. So if it were me, I would not buy any of them.
dags_lax
04-02-2004, 10:21 AM
I have got to agree with Sanj on this one. Schon, in my experience, is the superior cue. I can't quantify why I feel that way except that I play better with my Schon than with the other cues I've owned. I own, or have owned, most of the higher end production cues including Jackson, Jacoby, and Pechauer. I've also had a Predator and Predator shafts for my Schon and one of my Jacksons. The only other production cue that I own that I feel is on par with the Schon is the Nova. Unfortunately Nubs Wagner is no longer making the Nova.
As for buying on eBay it is somewhat of a gamble but there are great values to be had. From my observations Schons on eBay tend to sell for closer to retail than other makes so you may not be saving a lot when compared to a reputable dealer. If you are looking for a used Schon your options are more limited.
Now here is another suggestion. Keep your Viking and spend the money on a good instructor. Jerry Breiseth is possibly the instructor in the business and he is only a few miles from you.
sonnic
04-02-2004, 01:42 PM
I agree dags, I think a good teacher will be a better addition to my game then any cue would. But as luck would have it i recently recieved a settlement for wrecking my car that happened to be very favorable to me. I usually dont have money to burn but it just so happens i can afford to spend 500 on a cue. I could go to madison and see Jerry but I am probibly not going to do that. Besides i think he quoted me somewhere around 800-900 for a full lesson. but reguardless my viking cue is plain, its broken, but it does have a predator shaft on it. Im not sure how much of a difference a predator or schon will make if any but I have money now to get a nice cue that i will like for years to come. I will not love my viking for years to come but I think physcologicly having a schon or predator would booost confidence and make me play better and more often. So that being the case If i were to buy one of these Schon's on Ebay which one would you choose??? Or would you buy a new basic looking predator from seyberts? I admit buying a cue from ebay is a risk but if you deal with an experianced dealer than you shouldn't have anything to worry about. I am looking for something that i will absolutely LOVE more than anything that would be worthy of putting on my wall. Like a nice schon the reason i wouldn't go predator is because in my opinion to get a decent looking cue you have to shell out 700+. What should i do???????????????????
DZ314
04-02-2004, 02:00 PM
How is the Schon CX line? There are some decent looking ones for your price range available, but unfortunately Seybert's does not sell them.
Dags, I agree with you that when it comes to production cues, schon is one of the best, if not the best.
But I think that you like the schon shaft better and not the cue (If you take 2 butts of different cues with the same joint, weight and balance point, I realy don't think that there is a difference in playability).
Do you have one of the older predator cues, with the 5/16 X 14 joint? it's like the schon joint, if you do then do this next test for us, put the schon shaft on the predator butt and practice with it, let us know how it plays compared to the schon (butt and shaft), then you can take the 314 shaft and put it on the schon butt and see if there is any difference from a predator cue (butt and shaft).
If both butts are with the same weight/balance, I think that you will be amazed from the simple fact that when you have a metal joint then the butt of the cue does not have any effect on the playability of the cue.
p.s it is also importent that both shafts will have the same tip
sonnic
04-02-2004, 02:10 PM
Sorry Seyberts i hate to post another billiard supply website but you guys just dont have what im looking for. Prove me wrong but I am interested in a Schon that costs less than 600 bucks id rather buy it from a supply store instead of ebay but if i could save a few hundred dollars i would buy from ebay.
http://www.ozonebilliards.com/schon.html
If think i am most interested in the 03 or the 37 taking into consideration price and style. What do you Think???? I need opinions. Also if anyone can find a better price on either of these cues obviously id be interested!!!
DZ314
04-02-2004, 02:29 PM
I like the look of both of those cues and think either one would be a great one. I looked at the site I usually find good prices on and cannot find better than the Ozone prices.
sonnic
04-02-2004, 02:32 PM
there pretty good over there. I am partial to seyberts because of the great forums so even if it costs a few bucks more i will always consider them.
DZ314
04-02-2004, 02:34 PM
I am afraid you may get a similar response: http://www.seyberts.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1462
sonnic
04-02-2004, 03:13 PM
there pretty good over there. I am partial to seyberts because of the great forums so even if it costs a few bucks more i will always consider them.
sonnic
04-02-2004, 04:23 PM
I wish seyberts had a bigger schon selection. Does anyone have an opinion on this??? What would you do????
I will be working on the Schon website section so we will include the STD line (if there's more cues, I will be informed and they will be included but as far as I know we'll be offering STD, Unique, Elite, and LTD)
However, if there is a specific Schon cue that you want to get before the new section will be up, just get ahold of Rick on Monday and place your order :)
I wish I could give you a time phase of when the Schon will be done, there's so many web pages to update and create.....never enough time in the day to get everything completed!
:)
Honestly, I'd ask Rick about it, and see what he can get you. Just because it isn't on the site doesn't mean you can't get it. My next cue, should there be one next year (I'm considering it seriously) would be a Predator 2, curly maple. It's coming from Seybert's, believe me. After how they took care of the shaft I sent them, I wouldn't buy a production cue anywhere else.
sonnic
04-05-2004, 12:43 PM
I have sent rick an email reguarding the Schon selection, I hope he can help. Ill keep you guys posted on what i decide to do... This is a pretty big decision for me i plan on keeping this cue for a long time so i want to do it right. Im always interested in hearing opinions?????
I don't think you can go wrong by getting a schon.
I have a schon unique.It hits aswell as any other schon.
Very solid,predictable with great feel.
Enjoy. :D
DZ314
04-05-2004, 02:10 PM
I am considering buying a Schon sometime this summer. With continued practice of my fundamentals I feel that by then I will play like I should have one hehe. Maybe I do now but I am tough on myself. 8)
Anyway, I don't think buying a Schon would be an unwise decision sonnic.
sonnic
04-06-2004, 11:14 AM
I pretty much made up my decision to go with Schon now the question is which line? and which cue? I like the CX line but they don't sell it many places. I wonder why? hopefully it is a last years model type of thing and they just aren't marketed anymore. either way it seems I can get more bang for my buck with the CX line all the other Schon lines are 700+ for a decent design. I want this cue to last and to maintain a growing love for the cue for many years to come. thanks for all your input.
Sonnic
DZ314
04-06-2004, 11:20 AM
Perhaps someone could shed some light on the CX series and why it is not sold many places.
The CX line is not a standard Schon line. If you go to www.schoncues.com there you will see the standard lines that schon and seyberts Billiard Suplly offers.
sonnic
04-06-2004, 11:27 AM
hopefully last years model... Anyone know????
DZ314
04-06-2004, 11:37 AM
Rick, what about the CX makes it a non-standard Schon line? Does the quality vary, where they are assembled?
They are made at Schon but specific designs for a distributor. This is why we don't like to deal with anything other than the standard Schon line. You can only get these from the distributor not schon.
sonnic
04-06-2004, 12:36 PM
is there still a warrenty?
This is another reason why we don't want to deal with this line. I am sure there is a warranty but it would be more difficult since we are not dealing straight through Schon. If you order products that we deal direct with, we are going to get faster service and we stand behind everthing we sell.
DZ314
04-06-2004, 10:23 PM
How much would a Schon STL-7 run?
You are looking at $592.50. thanks
DZ314
04-07-2004, 09:26 AM
Wow, that is a very good price for that cue. Soon I should have the money for it and you will be hearing from me about purchasing it. Thanks for the quick reply, Rick. :)
sonnic
04-07-2004, 10:44 AM
How about an STL-8?
You are looking at $630.00. You can take the retail and multiply it by .75 and get your price. thanks
sonnic
04-07-2004, 11:00 AM
great thanks rick
New Kid In The Hall
04-07-2004, 02:19 PM
My first Schon was the LTD-627 (you can see one on Seybert's Schon section). I had Evan at Schon do a custom black butt cap instead of the white one, a leather wrap, tip the schon shaft with an ivory ferrule and Talisman Pro M tip, and got a completely matching 314 shaft with ringwork from Seyberts. Great cue, great shafts (both). It is as solid a hitting cue as any others in my collection.
I was unhappy with the leather wrap and Evan even did it two more times to make sure I was happy with it. I am very detailed.
Still looking for an Elite 11 if anyone sees one for sale anywhere.
sonnic
04-07-2004, 02:57 PM
you must absolutly be loaded!!! What do you do for a living??? Whatever proffession it is I want in!!!
New Kid In The Hall
04-08-2004, 02:35 PM
sonnic, I'm a business owner. I do ecommerce private franchise development and some engineering consulting work on the side. Corporate world and me never got along. Too political (read BS) and too slow (read not enough people care enough about results or doing the right thing).
Thanks for asking.
DZ314
04-09-2004, 01:32 PM
I can relate to those issues. They are a steaming pile of dung. :(
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