Talisman

[guest]

Does anybody have any feedback on talisman tips?

[Bruce]

I have Talisman pigskin laminate tips on my AE cues and they are the cats whiskers. They hit very nice and have a lot of ball control. Go for em. :)

[Elvis]

I could use a little help here also. Have always shot with a Le Pro, tried a Moori-Medium (liked it), and was thinking of trying the Talisman Pro Tip next. Which would compare to a LePro and Moori Medium? Talisman Pro Soft or Medium?

[Buddy]

I switched from Lepro to Talisman Pro medium about 6 months ago. I will probably never try anything alse (unless I get my hands on a Moori). I got 10 of them for $40 on E-Bay. Try getting anything that good for $4 each. I also got a few extra hards for my breakstick. I highly recommend them.

[Mississauga Fats]

I've been using the Talisman pro med for about 4 months now and am extrememy satisfied with the way they play.The tip has actually had a positive influence on my game and I've never been able to say that about any single layer tip.Control and the ability to put spin on the ball are light years ahead of the LePro I had been using.Tip maintenance is also virtually zero.

[wabacokid]

I have just about played the life out of the Triangle tip I ordered for my 314 shaft. I am thinking of switching to a Moori medium for my next tip. Do you guys think that the Moori will work nicely with the 314? I have read many posts that say they work great together to acheive excellent cue ball control. Does anyone out there use this combination?

[Elvis]

I had been using a Moori Medium on a 314 shaft for about 2 months. Love the tip, but about 3 weeks ago I stopped using the Predator shaft and started using the shaft that came with my cue. I do not miss the Predator shaft but I DO miss the Moori tip.

[wabacokid]

Elvis,
Why did you lay down the 314? What kind of cue are you using now? When you were using the 314 with the Moori, was your cue ball movement better?
Thanks,
wabacokid

[Elvis]

wabacokid, it's hard to keep a cue for more than 3 months without buying a new one. I have been using a custom cue made by Jeff Olney for awhile and I didn't want to become "committed" to a Predator shaft until I found that perfect cue I liked and I could settle down with. I do not use a lot of english besides draw and follow right now so I do not see the benefits of a Predator as much as others do. I don't really know if the cue ball movement was better but for me the Moori never looses it's shape and that is big because I break with the same cue that I shoot with. LePro's would get a flat spot on them and I did not like the inconsistency from tip to tip and the endless shaping chore. I am going to try a Talisman and if I like that I will probably go that route because of the cost factor.

[Lou]

What's the difference in performance between the Talisman Pro and the Water Buffalo tips? The WB's are more expensive (therefore I'd assume they're higher quality), but everybody is talking about the Pro.

[Mississauga Fats]

The buffalo tips tend to be harder than the "pro" line because the buffalo leather is denser.They are a good choice for a break cue but some find them too hard for general play.The pro-med I use is hard enough for me.I wouldn't really want anything harder.

[Lou]

The buffalo tips tend to be harder than the "pro" line because the buffalo leather is denser.They are a good choice for a break cue but some find them too hard for general play.The pro-med I use is hard enough for me.I wouldn't really want anything harder.


Thanks, Fats.

[adesso]

I use a Talisman WB on my playing cue and have never had any problems with it. I get great cue ball control, and tons of english when I want. I've been thinking about switching over to the Pro tips, but I'm finding it hard to justify the switch. I've been really happy with the WB's, I would recommend them to anyone.

[Lou]

The buffalo tips tend to be harder than the "pro" line because the buffalo leather is denser.They are a good choice for a break cue but some find them too hard for general play.The pro-med I use is hard enough for me.I wouldn't really want anything harder.



I use a Talisman WB on my playing cue and have never had any problems with it. I get great cue ball control, and tons of english when I want. I've been thinking about switching over to the Pro tips, but I'm finding it hard to justify the switch. I've been really happy with the WB's, I would recommend them to anyone.


I knew it wouldn't be that easy. Thinking more about it, I guess type of ferrule, taper of shaft, etc. would also factor into how the tip plays on a given cue. I guess I'll just have to bide my time and see which one works for me.

Thanks again for your input.

[Mississauga Fats]

There really isn't much of a price difference between the pro and wb tips,so don't make a decision based on that.Not unless you're going to buy a hundred at a time or something like that.The pricing is so much more attractive than Moori anyhow.If you get a wb tip I'd advise you not to get the hardest one they sell,except for use on a break cue.These laminated tips are also trickier to trim and shape to size so it might be a good idea to have someone with a lathe install it for you.The tips last so much longer so that the expense of professional installation is lessened somewhat.I installed a wb tip on a friends cue once and could tell when shaping it down on my lathe that it was tougher than the pig-skin pro and as such I would not have been too happy doing the trimming and shaping by hand.It seems likely to me that these tips would also be more susceptable to delaminating or having the layers flake off while trimming them by hand because they don't cut as easily as a natural tip.

I've been using Talisman pigskin tips for over a year. I tried the WB and didn't like them (personal preference). I suggest that no one buy Talisman tips. That way I'll have a VERY CONSIDERABLE advantage over you. If you and I are of equal skill, I have a Talisman tip and you don't, I'LL BEAT YOUR ASS! :D

I've been using Talisman pigskin tips for over a year. I tried the WB and didn't like them (personal preference). I suggest that no one buy Talisman tips. That way I'll have a VERY CONSIDERABLE advantage over you. If you and I are of equal skill, I have a Talisman tip and you don't, I'LL BEAT YOUR ASS! :D

I don't have a Talisman tip BUT I do have a Moori MH tip to beat anyones asses including Talisman Pro M tip users. I'm glad their that expensive but I got mine at $12 a pop! :D


By: TROY (Copied and pasted without permission but with much respect)

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The Tip Ranking!

1. Moori MH (people swear by these, but at $40 + each it may be more mystique than anything else). More than 15 people responded about Moori and NO complaints

2. Talisman Water Buffalo MH: People love the control and the feel of the hit, which is softer than the Moori. Some problems have been noted in quality control and in the tips “Fuzzing” through the middle. At about $9 each they are decent value. About 10 people responded about Talisman with just a few complaints (including myself)

3. Hercules MH: Several people place these in the same category as the Moori and Grady Mathews says that he loves them. The hit is fairly hard and they are difficult to find. Average price is about $14 per tip Three people responded and all loved the tip

4. Talisman Pro MH (pigskin) hits harder than the MH water Buffalo and I have had a lot more miscues with this tip than the WB. Others say it is virtually identical to the Moori. About 10 people responded and no problems reported with the pig tips

5. Everest by Tiger (about $12) Two people responded, no problems reported

6. Chandivert (in various harnesses) Most like them, no complaints about $4.50 each

7. Triumph. Nice single layer that holds shape and hits well. Comes with a built in red pad under the leather. About $3 each

8. Triangle. Single layer tip. Hard. Good hit while it lasts. About $2 each

9. Le Pro. Single Layer tip MH about $1.50 each very inconsistent Lots of grumbles


The biggest losers were:

Porper Composite (Ram) Tip. What a piece of crap. Numb hit, hard to shape. Ugh.
Elk Master: very soft, no one had anything good to say about them.

[Kokopuffs]

My stock Predator Sneaky Pete comes with a Le Pro tip and I'll wax everyone under the sun!

[Sid]

Do you also wax cars? :D

[Neil Fujiwara]

:D

[Kokopuffs]

:twisted: Just bikini lines. 8O

[Oberyn Martell]

Outta curiousity i know moori tips are made in japan, where are talismans made?

Talisman tips are made in Thailand.

[Pskonejott]

Before installing a talisman tip check out http://www.talismanbilliards.com/FAQ.asp. They recommend that you do not use a lot of the tools that you may normally use because their tips will either de-laminate etc... I have just received an order of 4 Pro-medium tips from talisman and have not installed any yet, but it seems their quality control missed one of the tips they sent me, I'm going to send them an Email about it now :-)

I've just tried WB mediam, it was too soft as M.
This tip send my cue ball to totaly wrong direction.
I think I got miss quarity one.
I will change this tip to something ASAP.

I went to the XH Talisman Pro tips some time back and love them! They hold chalk well and I do not miscue even though they are XH. I even play at home with NO CHALK to refine my stroke, and seldom do I miscue unless I get way outside on the CB or if I lose my fluidity in my stroke. Believe me, I move the CB around pretty good using these XH tips...martin